Stop means no. And no means no. So . . . stop.

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Typo Boy - Oct 01, 2011 8:41:42 am PDT #21911 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I agree that the first two episodes of this season were much better than I expected. I had no specific reasons for low expectations, just at assumption that at this point the writers would be coasting. But so far (early days) it looks like a first rate season.


Stephanie - Oct 01, 2011 8:42:45 am PDT #21912 of 30002
Trust my rage

I didn't actually like this episode as a whole, but I liked lots of little parts. The trenchcoat, the Dean and Sam pain conversation, Dean's desperation in the phone call, and seeing Sheriff Mills again.

Um, I would also be very willing to read Sam and Dean pain fic that comes along.


Stephanie - Oct 01, 2011 8:43:47 am PDT #21913 of 30002
Trust my rage

Oh! and Bobby's conversation with Dean about not being okay and then calling him "idjit". Maybe I will have to watch again.


Typo Boy - Oct 01, 2011 8:55:27 am PDT #21914 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Really did like this episode as a whole.

Incidentally one thing I should have considered when anticipating staleness: Sera Gamble. Not old hat to her - a new toy to play with. So whatever goes right or wrong it won't be staleness and "I've been doing this too long" syndrome.


Amy - Oct 01, 2011 9:01:42 am PDT #21915 of 30002
Because books.

That's not really true, though -- she's been writing for the show since the first season, and has been a producer since S3.


Typo Boy - Oct 01, 2011 9:13:30 am PDT #21916 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

But only a showrunner for two seasons. Very different because she has final say over arc.


Amy - Oct 01, 2011 9:16:06 am PDT #21917 of 30002
Because books.

I guess. But my take is that she's been there so long, she's not going to take the show in some entirely weird or unexpected direction. She knows the characters, and she also knows the fans.


Typo Boy - Oct 01, 2011 9:22:31 am PDT #21918 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Sure, but at the same time she hasn't had to deal with every episode the way Kripke did until now. I'd think that there is a bit, "now I can do this". And since she is a fan as well as a long term writer and producer stuff won't come out of left field. But it won't be the same thing Kripke would have to fight if he was still doing it. I mean he might have been able to fight it off, and keep things fresh. But I suspect that with her, staleness is a non-issue.


Typo Boy - Oct 01, 2011 9:33:35 am PDT #21919 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I used to play GI Joes with other boys as a kid. And they were actually pretty generous about letting me have a share in shaping the story and what have you when it was their GI Joe's. But when I got one of my own for a birthday I could do anything I wanted with, that was a whole different thing.


Juliebird - Oct 01, 2011 9:35:19 am PDT #21920 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I saw someone worrying that Sam would become a cutter. Now I'm worried.

That said, bring on the fic!