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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2011 7:08:09 am PDT #21634 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Calling Dean holding Cas up when he stumbles in front of the sigils "the only good moment in a crappy episode" is just ... what?

Those are the crazy shippers, who parallel the ones I've read that Dean was an asshole trying to save the world while his brother might be in trouble, and OMG how could Dean and Sam not hug, so OOC.

It seems to be pretty universally Dean's fault, for touching either one of them insufficiently.


JenP - Sep 24, 2011 7:09:20 am PDT #21635 of 30002

Yeah, I agree - I'm 95% thinking Lucifer's still in the cage where he belongs, so not even worth mentioning that he's there. But there's that 5%... I think a teensy part of my being is a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist.

Oh, and I loved Bobby to Death: "... your... Honor."


Amy - Sep 24, 2011 7:12:53 am PDT #21636 of 30002
Because books.

Yes! "Your honor" was priceless.

Dean doesn't hug very often, really. And when he does, it's almost relief. Last night, he was holding everything in, he was balanced so precariously on the edge of totally losing it.


§ ita § - Sep 24, 2011 7:22:25 am PDT #21637 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was reading someone's LJ, and they posted that the anime was even more hugging than the live action. I had to comment, because "more"? They barely do! I hug my sister as much, and we live in different countries.

I do remember some fic where Sam is thinking, in his defense, that they're totally normal and hug quite a bit because they totally do every time one of them dies.


sumi - Sep 24, 2011 8:21:15 am PDT #21638 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Loved the episode. . .loved it. I'm sure you have all covered the high points. Misha is going to have so much fun playing maniacal evil.


Atropa - Sep 24, 2011 9:14:38 am PDT #21639 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Death made an eclipse. He is the BAMFiest BAMF that ever BAMFed.

Yes he is. Again, Favorite Character. Dean arranging the food so carefully for him made me giggle.


SailAweigh - Sep 24, 2011 9:52:22 am PDT #21640 of 30002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I think Death is Dean's Santa, in a perverse and twisted way.


JenP - Sep 24, 2011 10:22:33 am PDT #21641 of 30002

Yes he is. Again, Favorite Character. Dean arranging the food so carefully for him made me giggle.

With you on all of that. There's nothing I didn't love about that scene, and I'm fairly certain I can say that about any scene they've done with Death. They really handle that character and his interactions beautifully.

ETA: Made. An. Eclipse.


Beverly - Sep 24, 2011 10:46:50 am PDT #21642 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

"I'll make another one. Be there. On.time."


Anne W. - Sep 24, 2011 2:07:59 pm PDT #21643 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Oh, I adore show's Death beyond all reason.

Cas's return to sanity at the end and the sudden ripping away of that sanity via Leviathan was heartbreaking as all get-out. It just seemed so unfair, especially if Cas is truly as gone as Leviathan said. I'm also having some meta-ish thoughts about Cas's character arc as compared to Sam's, but those are going to need some time to percolate.

What people want from Show, and what Show is, are two completely different things so much of the time.

This is true, and I think it's part of what leads to the accusations of 'dickishness' and so on. If a favorite character does something less than noble, it's OOC or completely justifiable. If a less-favored character does something less than noble, they are selfish dicks with no redeeming qualities who kick puppies in their spare time.