If God!Cas wants to have sex with a willing Dean, is it still dub/non-con for Cas?
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ita, Head for the Exits [link] by temporalranger. Dean's a cop, Cas a masked hero and the cute coffee shop guy that Dean has a crush on.
If God!Cas wants to have sex with a willing Dean, is it still dub/non-con for Cas?
I don't see why. Cas wants to and Dean is willing, so it's all good?
But is GodCas really Cas?
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I've seen at least one interview where JA says part of the season will be trying to get Cas back and get him undeified.
I think he is. He's under an influence, but I think it's less dubious than a drunk person initiating sex. He's out of control, but he's Cas. It's not like Gary in Sam's body having sex.
I think it's a little more dubious than you do, but now I want to read fic about RealCas trying all the things that GodCas got to do with Dean.
Oh, Amy....
I'd say a bit different than a drunk someone initiating sex. Yes, there's the "drunk on alcohol/power" but until we know more, these are the souls of creatures who were by and large less moral than the average joe, vamps and werewolves and rugarus, etc.. It's more than just body chemistry being altered, there's the possibility that there's outside (or in this case, inside) influence on Castiel's actions.
I don't think that vamps and werewolves are less moral. Vamps are predators and werewolves and rugarus are mindless predators. But that's probably hairsplitting. I mean, your point that they have an influence isn't lessened by that.
However, in my head, he's drunk on power. He was doing really shitty things before he ate the souls. It's not like the switch flipped at the eclipse. He killed Rachel and Balthazar before he ate anything.
Head for the Exits [link] by temporalranger
How the fuck did I miss that? I betaed the art!
True, he was doing pretty shitty things, killing his allies, before ate Purgatory. But I don't think he would have told Dean and Sam, after he'd completed the objective that was the end to all those shitty means, that he'd kill them if they didn't worship him or swear loyalty and love. But I also think that maybe we'll really have to wait until Show gives us a better idea of how much the souls affect him, whether they're acting just as fuel, or if there is some sentient influence in there as well.
Superhero BB is losing me. Gabriel just showed up, and I swear he wasn't this annoying on the show, Ruby is a cat (I really get offended when any character is relegated to pet status, no matter how much you hate the character. I don't know which is worse, relegating a fan- chated character to dumb pet status, or incorporating an important and character-loved character and relegating them to loved pet status (Jess is Sam's horse!)) and Sam is offscreen as an addict. Not only is he not in Dean's life, he's still an addict. I think this was written by someone who only watches for the D/C. We'll see if Sam is brought forward into the story and he ends up as Gabriel's true love. Ugh.