I get Dean/Alastair. They're not usually remotely happy. I also get Castiel/Crowley in light of the end of S6, but not from before. Strange bedfellows to the max.
Dean/Gabriel, no. Dean/Trickster, yes.
It's because you didn't have a strong father figure isn't it?
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§ ita § - Jun 25, 2011 12:05:53 am PDT #20435 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Juliebird - Jun 25, 2011 5:11:41 pm PDT #20436 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Rewatching And Then There Were None, I really feel bad that Gwen went out like that. Or, not so much that that was her demise, but that they'd done so little with her beforehand. Maybe I'm a sucker for an Ellen Ripley face, or it's remnants of the botched job they did with the Campbell's. But, they introduced them, left them as one-notes, caricatures, messy enigmas, and ultimately disposable, which seems like a waste of breath. I mean, shit, Gwen's husband turning out to be have been ridden by a demon for who knows how long was dropped by the wayside. And I end up back to being ticked off that all the interviews with Sera, etc. revolved around the Campbell's. And, I'm sorry, they added nothing to the Winchester legacy, and illuminated nothing about Mary. And in the end, we still don't know how they survived Azazel's purge, or why Corin Nemec was possessed, or for how long, or what was his goal, or Gwen's reaction. Grampa Samuel still makes no sense. Help!
Amy - Jun 25, 2011 5:18:00 pm PDT #20437 of 30002
Because books.
Corin Nemec was possessed, or for how long, or what was his goal
So Crowley would have an inside man.
Gwen's reaction
Horror and grief, I assume. But she really wasn't enough of a character to make it matter.
The Campbells (or any kind of other characters introduced for more than an episode) are going to exist to illuminate changes or conflicts in Sam and Dean. Otherwise, you've got an ensemble drama, which this is isn't.
In this case, they didn't execute that thread very neatly, but it does mean a) they weren't completely alone; b) they might not be, even now, since they could stumble on others next season; and c) family is about who you choose it to be, the way they've chosen Bobby. Blood isn't everything.
Samuel's motivation for agreeing to work with Crowley is ridiculous to me, but the arc is over now, so I'm not particularly bothered.
I'd actually like to see less people coming back from the dead this season. Let people stay in the grave for once.
§ ita § - Jun 25, 2011 5:19:52 pm PDT #20438 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Gwen had a husband? Who was that?
Juliebird - Jun 25, 2011 5:20:53 pm PDT #20439 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I think it's not so much how the Campbell arc played out, but how it was hyped in comparison to how it played out that has me miffed.
Juliebird - Jun 25, 2011 5:21:47 pm PDT #20440 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
ita, she was married to Christian, the dude who turned out to be possessed by a demon. Played by Corin Nemec.
-t - Jun 25, 2011 5:27:03 pm PDT #20441 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Really? I thought they were cousins of some sort.
§ ita § - Jun 25, 2011 5:28:08 pm PDT #20442 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
she was married to Christian
When was that established? When she was introduced, she was just introduced as a distant cousin, like Christian.
Christian's wife's name began with an A...
eta: Arlene.
Amy - Jun 25, 2011 5:34:07 pm PDT #20443 of 30002
Because books.
Oh yeah, they were the ones who were going to take the shifter!baby to raise.
I think it's not so much how the Campbell arc played out, but how it was hyped in comparison to how it played out that has me miffed.
I don't really read spoilery interviews, so I didn't get any of the hype. That could be the difference.
Juliebird - Jun 25, 2011 5:34:26 pm PDT #20444 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Maybe that explains my confusion over the lack of emotion of his demise on Gwen's part. Where did I get that from?