Then I need to know why he went to Hell. There needs to be more explanation there.
I wonder if dying while demon-possessed (didn't Samuel keel the instant Azazel left his body?) would have something to do with that.
some of the more vocal contingents of the fandom continue to scare me
Oh, yes. This. I was lurking in one place I would normally never go (to see reactions to the BB summaries and claims) and... yeesh. I have a similar feeling towards large parts of my other main fandom. There are people there who become so invested in one particular aspect of a show, be it a character or a pairing, that they feel they own it more that the creators do. I just don't get it.
ETA: ita, did you ever hear from your BB author?
they feel they own it more that the creators do
Yes! I laugh and roll my eyes everytime someone says that's not how the show is supposed to go. Guess what? We just get to like what we like. How it should go, what's the theme of the show, who are worthwhile characters to explore--that's up to people not us.
Anne, haven't heard from them yet. Don't like waiting. Why wait? It feels like a really short period for me, and I work pretty quickly. But I need to get a beta, etc, and I can't do that without more information.
Then I need to know why he went to Hell. There needs to be more explanation there.
My take is just that he turned out to be a pretty much ruthless and self-serving guy despite being a hunter. We've certainly run into hunters that weren't good people before.
Yeah, but he's Mary's father. I don't think you send him to Hell without justifying that in the text. Surely Hell is a bigger deal than that?
Oh, BTW, some stuff you never saw sent a character we'd only painted positively up until S6 to Hell. I think that's sloppy storytelling.
I don't think Samuel was in hell. The crossroads demon was able to bring Sam back from what we presume is heaven in AHBL; I assumed Crowley simply meant he knew the right man for his job, and where to find him.
I'm glad we finally know who brought Sam back, although his face when he was telling Cas what a "piss-poor" job he did broke me.
And Crowley is definitely the greatest salesman who ever lived. The way he sold Cas was perfect -- pressing every button so neatly.
Loved that Cas was keeping watch over Dean, too, and how much he wanted to honor both what Sam wanted for Dean, and what he thought was good for Dean (i.e. the chance to rest and find some happiness).
I think Team Free Will's anger is justified -- no one wants to be played, especially after what the angels put Sam and Dean through. I think Dean especially is simply hurt that Cas didn't come to him and ask for help or advice. When it comes to his family, Dean does believe he's the only one who can keep them safe, even if that means keeping them safe from themselves (see: Sam partnering with Ruby, plus the fact that he was right about that bears out his belief).
The scene in the dark living room with the hushed voices was so reminiscent of mom and dad fighting so the kids won't hear. They broke up! God, that was painful.
And Cas speaking to god, waiting for an answer -- really beautifully played. He hasn't lost his faith, even though he knows god took himself out of the game a long time ago. I think the fact that it can only be god who brought him back at Stull is responsible for some of that, but I don't think Cas ever truly lost his devotion, not completely.
I need to watch it again. So much happened, I was sitting there with my mouth hanging open trying to process for most of it.
I am blocking out time this afternoon to rewatch Mommy Dearest and this. Most def.
Ellsworth! Bobby's demonic counterpart has the same name as his Deadwood character.
Goddamn, I was wondering why that sounded so familiar. Awesome.
Oh, god. Me and Mrs Jones is playing in the opening Crowley/Castiel scene. No, guys, layer on the relationship metaphors a little thicker, because I think my dead grandma didn't notice.
Mark Sheppard is so cute when he's playing furious.
