Was watching Wheel of Fortune, which is not usual for me, and the puzzle was April Showers. Although the second word was one letter short, I yelled out "April Spoilers!" My life may revolve around too much TV.

And that ties into thread because....we were discussing wardrobe spoilers. :nods:

THIS IS NOT GEN.

Seriously. I got to the point where they start taking off their clothes and I have to leave. Just because they don't have sex doesn't mean...I mean, can we have a rating for "so much more fucked up than on the show, but maybe no genitalia"? Because that behaviour creeps me out on the same continuum as brother sex.

I read that, too. I thought it was overwrought, mostly. And yeah, I did not get the what you said.

I used to read a lot of K Hanna Korossy, when I first started consuming fic in bulk. For a while I thought it was normal for them to share beds, that it was something I was going to have to deal with if I wanted any sort of hurt/comfort there'd be lots of sleepy cuddles.

They don't actually touch that much on the show. Just about any one of my family members does more sibling touching than that. So it's not an extension of behaviour on the show, it's wish fulfillment. But I noticed that some people don't cop to it. For some reason, that bothers me.

You want huggy touchy brothers? Write away! But don't pretend it's in line with canon--I remember one fic where Sam was defensive saying "We totally touch every time one of us dies or comes back from the dead." And, seriously, death or injury does have to be on the table.

I'm not saying they're not soulmates (I'm totally on board *that* train). I'm just saying they're not expressing their beyond-the-grave devotion in a day to day tactile manner.

I think a lot of people took the idea of Dean crawling into Sam's crib after Mary died as law. But there aren't a lot of little boys who are going to continue that behavior past a certain age, and in the Christmas episode we see what I think of as typical boy behavior -- grudging fondness, a lot of teasing, but no real hugging or cuddling.

I can buy that they had to share a double bed in a motel room once in a while, but I highly doubt they were snuggling when Dean was past the age of eight or so, when a four-year-old Sam might have demanded it, or weaseled it out of him, or simply cuddled close in his sleep (which four-year-olds do, complete with elbows in the ear and knees to the stomach).

I might stretch it to Dean being 11 or so, but I don't think even his lack of familial boundaries would encourage it past there, and I'm fairly sure Sam's came up strong and early.

I was describing the fic (as much as I read) to my sister and she was all "So?" "Okay?" "What!?" "Come on!" as I stepped her through it.

And she's touchy feely as shit.

I can see the boys sharing beds, like you say, Amy, in restricted living conditions which probably came up a lot. But that's not skin on skin contact.

Seen the S6 cast and crew picture? I can't believe they finished filming without an official word about S7. If we don't get one, it's going to feel all the more abrupt.

I wonder whose face is on the yellow shirts in the right back.

If the final shot of Season 6 is Sam & Dean disintegrating into a pile of jujubes, I am going to fall out laughing.