I can easily see gods being human beings from the distant past who gained immortality and power through people's belief, or just being created whole cloth by belief like the "ghost" in "Hell House." But the show's been pretty clear about the angels predating humanity.
You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin' command here.
Jayne ,'The Train Job'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 26, 2011 10:04:46 am PDT #18668 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Typo Boy - Mar 26, 2011 10:20:27 am PDT #18669 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Right about Angels. Don't think they are going there. But if they wanted make Angels and Gods people, part of the process could be buying your own bullshit. So Angels and Gods believe they predated humanity but they are wrong. Again not saying show will go there. Saying I'd like show to go there. (Although, unlike other things I'd hopef for in the past not inconsistent with Show's styles. Still not going to happen.)
§ ita § - Mar 26, 2011 11:14:13 am PDT #18670 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
But Typo, the quote says they don't have souls. I don't understand how else to underwriter interpret that. You have a soul, you go to heaven or hell. You don't, you go to purgatory. Whatever remains can't suddenly be a soul.
Typo Boy - Mar 26, 2011 11:50:55 am PDT #18671 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
The quote you made did not mention lack of souls. Did the vamp king actually say something on the lines of "you have souls we dont"?
§ ita § - Mar 26, 2011 12:02:47 pm PDT #18672 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The quote says that if you've got a soul you go to heaven or hell-up or down. Then he makes the distinction of his kind, which seemed to me to be pretty clearly the other case-soulless. How are you interpreting it?
Amy - Mar 26, 2011 12:12:47 pm PDT #18673 of 30002
Because books.
This is the quote:
The thing about souls -- If you've got one, of course -- Is they're predictable. You die, you go up or down. Where do my kind go?
It seems pretty clear to me that he means his kind don't have souls, which is why they don't go to heaven or hell.
Theresa - Mar 26, 2011 12:40:53 pm PDT #18674 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
So it's canon in Supernaturalverse that dogs have souls? All Dogs Go to Heaven. Bonesy or whatever his name was when Sam ran away. Then again, that was Sam's greatest hits and not Bonesy's. Ima count it cause I'd like dogs in heaven.
§ ita § - Mar 26, 2011 12:46:28 pm PDT #18675 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Are you saying you think they're soulmates?
Juliebird - Mar 26, 2011 3:33:18 pm PDT #18676 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
So there's a fic. It's AU, yay! It's 5k, yay! It's PG, hmmm. (c'mon, there at least needs to be punches thrown, blood spurting, violence, gore...). It says it's deliberately bad writing in Harlequin style.
Hold the phone.
Why would I read five thousand words of deliberately bad purple PG prose. I'm failing to see the pro in the pro-con here.
§ ita § - Mar 26, 2011 3:50:31 pm PDT #18677 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The author is being self-deprecating. It's not that bad. If that was their aim, they missed. It's dramatic, but...pirates. It should be.
Much worse has been committed by mistake.