Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.

Mal ,'Safe'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Mar 08, 2011 4:41:44 pm PST #18407 of 30002
Because books.

Well, alcoholism was a given, so that caps that.

Some alcoholics do quit, though. Another year, and he's that much more removed from Sam (if he hadn't returned), and he's that much more involved with Ben and Lisa, he might not have needed it so much, and he might have considered AA or whatever.

The thing for me with Dean is, he commits. There's a lot of black and white in Dean's worldview. It's just that with Sam in the picture, Sam is usually the whole picture. But think about how committed he's always been to taking care of Sam, to fulfilling his father's expectations. If he decided to throw in for good with Lisa and Ben (no matter what the motivation), I could see him choosing to stop drinking and really doing it.


§ ita § - Mar 08, 2011 4:56:41 pm PST #18408 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If he decided to throw in for good with Lisa and Ben (no matter what the motivation), I could see him choosing to stop drinking and really doing it.

I think he had thrown in for good, though. That he didn't seriously think Sam was going to come back, that he wasn't medicating until things changed.

I guess what I got from their conversation was that Dean had already stopped drinking as badly as he was initially, but that it was still notable drinking. For me it felt status quo. Like that was all the man he could be, and that the next change of emotional status would be giving up, not growing.

Dean's been drinking like it's normal probably since he was a teenager. He was drinking like it was a lifeline for the past few years. If they magically cure that I will make retchy noises. Anything short of "Liver failure! You must desist!" it's going to be hard to convince me.

Sam, sure, he can quit drinking, but does he really need to?


Amy - Mar 08, 2011 6:33:55 pm PST #18409 of 30002
Because books.

I think Sam drinks out of habit, and only once in a while when he's pissed and wants to get drunk.

I don't want them to magically fix anything for Dean. I love his damage. God, that feels wrong to say. If he were a real person, he probably would be howling in a nuthouse somewhere.


§ ita § - Mar 08, 2011 6:40:58 pm PST #18410 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love Dean's damage too. It's part of the reason I don't ship Dean/Lisa, despite liking her. Damaged D/C works for me in broken little happily ever after of unhealthy sorts, but damaged D/L I find skeevy and unappealing. Don't do that shit with a woman who's trying to lead a mundane life, much less a kid. Just no.

Sam could find a woman who'd let him hunt (Sarah) and work off his perceived debts and be that relatively healthy. I kinda want Dean living in the same house. Or next door. Or it could be a duplex. Somewhere he can drink and then come over and play with the kids. And Team Free Will still hunts together.


Amy - Mar 08, 2011 6:56:40 pm PST #18411 of 30002
Because books.

Sam could find a woman who'd let him hunt (Sarah) and work off his perceived debts and be that relatively healthy. I kinda want Dean living in the same house. Or next door. Or it could be a duplex. Somewhere he can drink and then come over and play with the kids. And Team Free Will still hunts together.

Your gooey center is showing. And I agree with every word.


§ ita § - Mar 08, 2011 7:09:57 pm PST #18412 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He's still no good to be a daddy! But he's a great uncle to his nieces, Mary Jo and Ellen. And him and Cas just work around their unworkables and find peace with each other.

And shoot and smite shit. Booyah!


§ ita § - Mar 08, 2011 7:15:58 pm PST #18413 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Speaking of future: TFW TNG I don't think I'm that interested in the fic, in general, but I'm fascinated by the art.


§ ita § - Mar 09, 2011 11:01:47 am PST #18414 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The developer just sent me a screenshot of Zachariah Adler's address information. So far no one has questioned all the Winchesters I've added to the test database.


Amy - Mar 09, 2011 11:04:28 am PST #18415 of 30002
Because books.

Heh. I LOVE YOU.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 09, 2011 2:05:21 pm PST #18416 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Dammit, I thought I would FINALLY get to see the first half of the pilot today, and found out that last night's power outage held my DVD recorder's internal clock back so I recorded the last half plus 30 minutes of Las Vegas.