How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don'tchya think?

Jayne ,'The Message'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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brenda m - Feb 12, 2011 10:10:07 am PST #17802 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

and just walks away from the conversation. He's not even trying.

It's not just that though. He's arguing with Sam on pursuing this shit but only so far before he shrugs and gives in. It's trust he didn't exibit before, but it's also a passivity or fatalism that seems new.


Juliebird - Feb 12, 2011 10:21:20 am PST #17803 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I was all ready for Dean to bluster and bullshit some more, and he just... stops.


SailAweigh - Feb 12, 2011 10:22:46 am PST #17804 of 30002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

it's also a passivity or fatalism that seems new.

That's it exactly. It's not that he's going through the motions, but that the motions are all that matters anymore, the end game doesn't. Is there even an end game? This season is really leaving me pretty confused.


Juliebird - Feb 12, 2011 10:35:14 am PST #17805 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Up until Sam hit the floor, I think Dean had already achieved his endgame. Keeping Sam from scratching was sort of a goal, and he was fighting to keep him from doing so, but maybe with his newfound maturity in Swan Song in letting Sam with his plan to take down Lucifer, Dean is giving in to Sam needing to make amends. As much as he doesn't want Sam to scratch, it's half-hearted when Sam-with-soul wants and needs to do something. He wanted This Sam back, so he can't really deny This Sam from doing what This Sam does.


Morgana - Feb 12, 2011 2:00:40 pm PST #17806 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Is there even an end game?

Is it still to save people and hunt the evil sons-of-bitches? For a while it was to save people and hunt as many evil sons-of-bitches as possible while tracking the YED, then save people and hunt the evil sons-of-bitches while running from the angels and Lucifer and trying to avert the Apocalypse. Then it became save people and hunt some evil sons-of-bitches while trying to reclaim Sam's soul from the Pit.

So in between Sam trying to make amends for things that I still personally don't hold him responsible for (because I think it was more like an alternate personality, or being possesssed than Sam himself), but he himself holds himself responsible for, and yet more saving people and hunting evil sons-of-bitches, I guess we're just in a holding pattern while waiting for the next Big Bad to show up. I'm guessing that's going to be The Mother of All, or whatever we're going to call the Dragon Mommy.


sumi - Feb 12, 2011 3:31:06 pm PST #17807 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

FYI - LA Con twitter feed.


Amy - Feb 12, 2011 3:50:30 pm PST #17808 of 30002
Because books.

I guess we're just in a holding pattern while waiting for the next Big Bad to show up. I'm guessing that's going to be The Mother of All, or whatever we're going to call the Dragon Mommy.

I think they made it pretty clear that she's the big bad. From the beginning of the season we've been hearing about purgatory, and now there's evidence that demons have not only found it, but also have instructions on bringing something to earth from there. And then we saw them raise her. Seems pretty cut and dried to me, anyway.


sumi - Feb 12, 2011 3:58:33 pm PST #17809 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah, me too.


brenda m - Feb 12, 2011 5:16:51 pm PST #17810 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Got home and L&O LA was on. Chuck is the suspect! (So far, I'm about 10 mins in.) It took me a moment to recognize him all suited up, but right away my reaction was "that guy is kind of squirrely."


Juliebird - Feb 12, 2011 5:27:14 pm PST #17811 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

OMG, the way that JA said "squirrly" last night was hilarious. What a freaking awkward word.