And the thing is, I like my evil like I like my men: evil. You know, straight up, black hat, tied to the train tracks, soon my electro-ray will destroy metropolis BAD.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Jan 28, 2011 10:22:24 am PST #17293 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If you want to put Cas in perspective.


Juliebird - Jan 29, 2011 12:44:46 am PST #17294 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

fanon love: Jimmy. I don't know if this really counts.

He's so rich in fiction, and I feel his absence in canon. He's so fucking tragic in fanon. I love it when fic takes the time to show him back in his old life After. I love it when he shares his vessel with Cas and they argue. I love it when fanon acknowledges that he died and Doesn't That Suck?

But after humanizing him in The Rapture, in the rest of canon Jimmy is just a meatsuit to be forgotten. And I don't know if I would have reached that point of bitterness without fic pointing out the rife potential. Jimmy is lumped callously with all the other meatsuits ridden by demons, killed and dismissed with nary an eyelash batted or a speck of remorse for the human life lost.


tiggy - Jan 29, 2011 11:04:23 am PST #17295 of 30002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

so there's this picture on tumblr that's technically spoilery, but then again not really. so i know it probably doesn't belong here. should i post it in spoilers lite?


§ ita § - Jan 29, 2011 11:22:14 am PST #17296 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's in Spoilers already, tiggy, if it's the one I think. It reveals the premise of the episode, and I didn't know if that was too much for lite.

Whitefont discussion of it there should be okay. It counts as "article."


tiggy - Jan 29, 2011 11:23:43 am PST #17297 of 30002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

ahhh...i don't go to Spoilers. i can handle the Lite, but not the whole shebang!


§ ita § - Jan 29, 2011 12:18:55 pm PST #17298 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm rewatching Caged Heat. I like the division between Dean and Cas. Cas evidently believes that Robo!Sam is Sam, and that bringing the soul back will just add pain. Dean doesn't think that's Sam, and bringing the soul back will bring Sam back.

I'm surprised that little time has been spent talking about easing the suffering of the soul in the Cage. If Cas had suggested, for instance, freeing it to Heaven, or something. Because it seemed to be either reinstate it, or leave it to the hatebang.


Amy - Jan 29, 2011 12:38:43 pm PST #17299 of 30002
Because books.

Is that the picture I saw, ita?

I still wish they'd defined "soul" a little more clearly, because Dean and Cas *and* Sam seem to have completely distinct ideas of what it will mean to Sam.


Laga - Jan 29, 2011 12:42:51 pm PST #17300 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I'm thinking Heaven might not be the safest place for Sam's soul what with the civil war and all. But they couldn't leave it where it was either. Hmm. Safe deposit box?


§ ita § - Jan 29, 2011 12:44:34 pm PST #17301 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"Dean Winchester's standing behind you." I love that.

Yeah, Amy, it's the one you've seen.

I wonder if they're going to get clearer about souls. I think it's possible that the disagreement is deliberate. I hope so.

I'm of the school that thinks it wasn't really Sam this whole time, that the replicant T1000 is lesser and not equal to a human being. I liked him, I liked his dry sense of humour and his heartless devotion to Dean and killing evil things. But I miss *Sam* and I hope he doesn't come back too broken.

Also on the list of things I love, Cas. Almost every second of him in Caged Heat. I despise the bit where he ran from hellhounds though. Summarily dispatching Crowley almost made up for it.

Watching Appointment In Samarra now. The doctor's assistant is smoking hot. And Tessa!


§ ita § - Jan 29, 2011 12:46:01 pm PST #17302 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm thinking Heaven might not be the safest place for Sam's soul what with the civil war and all

There hasn't been an implication that, say, Ash and other people aren't safe.

I've seen a lot of fics that posit a divide between angel Heaven and dead people heaven. But it's usually to add angst to Dean dying and being separated from Castiel. I don't know what it's based on. Zach and Joshua did just fine.