Lily didn't act violently. She was passively lethal, and burnt up about it. Did we ever see her act aggressively?
Joyce: And what did you do tonight? Dawn: Irritated Giles. I'm beginning to get why Buffy likes it so much.
'Get It Done'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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§ ita § - Jan 12, 2011 12:47:05 pm PST #17040 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Anne W. - Jan 12, 2011 12:50:26 pm PST #17041 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
We didn't, but then again, she was onscreen for so little there was hardly anything to judge by. Anson and Max were already trouble when we met them. Ava changed dramatically, and I also thought Jake started out as seeming like a nice enough guy. And Sam, well... maybe I'll just have to re-examine the evidence. Again. And then again, just to make sure.
Beverly - Jan 12, 2011 1:11:03 pm PST #17042 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
I liked Jake from the beginning. It was only when he turned on Sam I changed my mind. Also?
(((Anne))) Those are not commisery hugs, they're hugs of gratitude for the "Anson".
Theresa - Jan 12, 2011 1:37:26 pm PST #17043 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
Ack! I am so sorry, Theresa! Alas, we have two and a fraction weeks left of hellatus.
The good news is that it's only two and a half fraction weeks and not months. I caught Faith when it re-aired. Oh sweet Jesus the hurt in that episode. Then the guilt from Dean at the end toward Layla. Julie Benz rocked like she was the only one who could have ever played that part.
Good Show.
Morgana - Jan 12, 2011 4:55:21 pm PST #17044 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
Yes to all of this. I do wish they'd explored a little bit more of the whys and hows of the psychic freak thing. Did it go away when he got his demon-expulsion powers?
It went to wherever his telekinesis went.
§ ita § - Jan 12, 2011 5:03:09 pm PST #17045 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I assumed those powers went when the YED died.
Amy - Jan 12, 2011 5:37:00 pm PST #17046 of 30002
Because books.
Like the vampire/werewolf lore about killing the sire as a cure?
Even without his visions or telekinesis, I like that they've emphasized Sam's not!normalness all through. First it was the visions, then the brief telekinesis with the visions, then it was learning what the demon wanted from him/did to him, then developing the demon-banishing power with the added blood drinking, and then no soul.
When all he wanted as a kid was "normal," too. SAMMY
§ ita § - Jan 12, 2011 5:41:54 pm PST #17047 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I thought what the YED wanted from him personally was tied into the TK and the visions, so no YED, none of those powers. However, the blood taint, the long game, led to the banishing.
Basically, the long and short game don't really hold up all that well.
Amy - Jan 12, 2011 5:52:20 pm PST #17048 of 30002
Because books.
I guess I thought the powers would come through the blood he dripped into the babies' mouths. But it's hard to draw a nice neat line through every motivation, and I'm not sure they had it all planned out as well as Kripke claims they did.
That said, I do like the fact that even without the powers (which would have been fun to watch), Sam's still not coming up completely normal, which he was so invested in.
Morgana - Jan 12, 2011 6:40:26 pm PST #17049 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
When all he wanted as a kid was "normal," too. SAMMY
I haven't watched the pilot episode in quite a while, but I was reminded of this when someone (sorry but I forget which one of you it was) pointed it out earlier:
Sam: You think Mom would have wanted this for us?
Dean: So what are you gonna do? You're just gonna live some normal, apple pie life? Is that it?
Sam: No. Not normal. Safe.
I think that may have mutated as the show went on, but at the beginning at least it seems Sam's motivations were safety more than normalcy. Dean was the one who constantly mocked him with the "normal, apple pie life" phrase.