Then there was also Jose Chung's From Outer Space. I could see that as having influenced some of the more meta episodes, or things like Ghostfacers.

I will say, for all that it has occasionally elicited a buh? from me, SPN's mytharc has at least been largely coherent and focused.

JOSE CHUNG! God, I miss that show.

SPN's mytharc has at least been largely coherent and focused

They take a stab at it anyway. One of the reasons I haven't bought any X-Files DVDs (aside from how obscenely expensive they were in the beginning) is that I really only want MOW episodes.

But even when X-Filed did MOW episodes, rarely was anything resolved.

They take a stab at it anyway.

I think the writer's strike in S3 really threw things off in a way that they had to pick up slack for in S4 with marginal success. I do think that if Kripke et.al. had thought through their cosmology a bit more and to greater depth, some of the buggier parts of the overall mytharc wouldn't have been quite so, well, buggy.

Oh, I agree, Anne. But they've definitely made an effort to tie things together in a way Chris Carter either gave up on or couldn't manage.

I think that's why Jesse's one-off (when he was SUCH a smoking gun) bothered me. I'd have to look up the episode of X-Files, but the one with the little boy who was, like, the key to the whole world or whatever, and who disappeared into the ether never to be picked up on again.

I think that's why Jesse's one-off (when he was SUCH a smoking gun) bothered me.

I'm still holding out hope they'll revisit the Jesse idea, but I also got the idea that Jesse used his power in the end to deliberately and permanently remove himself from the conflict, giving destiny the kind of 'screw you' that Dean and Sam were not yet able to pull off.

I loved the idea, though, and I think it would be a shame if they didn't revisit it. Demons and humans breeding? There should be more Jesses around, really.

And didn't someone mention it's almost a nephilim thing, since all demons can be traced back to Lucifer, who is in fact an angel?

And didn't someone mention it's almost a nephilim thing

Ooh. Yes. Was it ever said that Lucifer was the only fallen angel, or did others fall with him? I've somehow managed to come up with head!canon regarding Azazel being an angel who was corrupted by Lucifer much as Lilith was corrupted.

Current fic peeve: "whilst". Just don't.

Why? It's a word.

It's always seemed pretty British to me, though.