I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time.

Ethan Rayne ,'Potential'


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Juliebird - Dec 21, 2010 2:13:35 pm PST #16696 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Or maybe it's just me that's wallowing in Dean's pain.


Amy - Dec 21, 2010 2:13:35 pm PST #16697 of 30002
Because books.

I don't really see the difference between re-inserting a soul over the objections of the vessel and exorcising a demon over the objections of the demon.

I don't think they defined terms very well, sadly. Sam seems to be able to remember his life, just not how he felt about it, or the ability to *feel* at all. Which doesn't make a lot of sense to me, same as the not sleeping issue. What does that have to do with a soul?

They did it better on Buffy, making the soul strictly the essence of someone's goodness, to whatever degree. At least for me, it was a little more cut and dried that way.


Juliebird - Dec 21, 2010 2:15:41 pm PST #16698 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Does "enjoying be malicious and cruel" fall under "feelings"? Because it seems to be like it does.


le nubian - Dec 21, 2010 2:18:10 pm PST #16699 of 30002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I've seen some of those discussions on-line about how reprehensible it was for Dean to have Death re-soul Sam

I thought the writers were specifically trying to address this point by having Sam try to kill Bobby. It seems to me that any "person" who makes this choice needs to be resouled by any means necessary.

You are really fucked up if you think this is a viable solution to your problems.


Amy - Dec 21, 2010 2:18:18 pm PST #16700 of 30002
Because books.

Does "enjoying be malicious and cruel" fall under "feelings"? Because it seems to be like it does.

Yeah! Which is also inconsistent. He still knows how to laugh at things and how to flirt, and has no filter when it comes to cruelness.

Which sounds more like pure id than a lack of feeling, but they've made it clear he *can't* feel concern or love or whatever, and it doesn't make a lot of sense.

So I say, resoul the boy! Let's have some good old-fashioned Sammy angst.


§ ita § - Dec 21, 2010 2:21:03 pm PST #16701 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know if he's a *wallower,* though. To me that means seeking out pain, and I think if there wasn't any that directly affected him or his loved ones, he wouldn't seek it.

Wallowing doesn't imply seeking for me, but it does involve rolling around in what's there. Dean? Will sit in the dark and feel until the cows come home. I mean, he'll also do, but he'll generate those perfect single manly tears of pain from his internal landscape all day long.


Amy - Dec 21, 2010 2:23:12 pm PST #16702 of 30002
Because books.

Well, yeah, he does like to roll around in what's there. Bless his little wounded heart.


Theresa - Dec 21, 2010 5:06:45 pm PST #16703 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Earn your fan status, people.

I want to marry this sentence.

someone on io9 was spewing pure hate about Ackles in the last post, I think. Disparaging his acting

This is in the other universe, right? The one without shrimp? Nonsense in this one and I am SO glad ita put the smack down on that ridiculousness.

DitW is a must-see on my list.

Damn, there are so many good episodes in the past.

I mean, he'll also do, but he'll generate those perfect single manly tears of pain from his internal landscape all day long.

It's about time for another one. I've missed them.


§ ita § - Dec 21, 2010 5:11:13 pm PST #16704 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is it just angels that taste of cinnamon and summer and winter and seabreeze and other random things that, you know, people don't go around tasting like, or do they write that crap into more general porn?

Because Dean may always smell like leather and salt and gun oil, and Sam smells like that girly shampoo (you can tell which way my fic is biased), but at least they don't usually taste freakish.


Theresa - Dec 21, 2010 5:14:52 pm PST #16705 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Those smells really do make sense for Sam and Dean.

I remember in Michael, John Travolta was said to smell like chocolate chip cookies as the angel. I don't think anyone tasted him though. I never thought of taste. That's almost too much.