You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.

River ,'Objects In Space'


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Amy - Dec 09, 2010 4:54:36 pm PST #16412 of 30002
Because books.

Oh, wait, we know she had sex with strangers while she was in Sam. I guess I just assumed she did while in Meg, but you're right, no citation there.

Ellen's cleavage, by the way, is AWESOME.


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2010 5:06:37 pm PST #16413 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

we know she had sex with strangers while she was in Sam

It's not stated in BUABS. Is it mentioned elsewhere?


Amy - Dec 09, 2010 5:08:08 pm PST #16414 of 30002
Because books.

He doesn't say that at some point?

Um, it's not, I guess? I could very well be thinking of a fic.


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2010 5:10:12 pm PST #16415 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Nope. Just read the transcript. Malt liquor, murder, and menthols. No sex.


Amy - Dec 09, 2010 5:12:55 pm PST #16416 of 30002
Because books.

Maybe Meg was all talk and no action!

Dude, a fic where Meg and Cas were BOTH virgins and fell in LURVE would probably explode some heads nicely.


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2010 5:18:59 pm PST #16417 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That would be excellent trolling.


Cass - Dec 09, 2010 5:24:06 pm PST #16418 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

But it was Meg herself who thought the demon dressed her slutty, and based on the peasant top and the very natural hair, I guess that could just be her take on it?

Exactly this. The character herself's read on it.

Seriously? Slut? That's harsh. How do you characterise Bela's clothing, or Ellen's cleavage, or Jo's visible stomach?

*I* didn't characterize demon!Meg as dressed slutty, dead Meg did. I think the demon dressed in a more sexually aware or provocative way but a lot of it was attitude too.

Bela was ... I don't even recall. Ellen's cleavage was awesome. She's a woman and I can easily read her as owning her sexuality happily. Jo dressed her age and sense of self. The demon dressed Meg's body in a way that was clearly not comfortable for Meg. That's the difference for me.


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2010 5:31:25 pm PST #16419 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sorry. When you said "far more provocative" you didn't mean that in any sense outside of human!Meg's PoV? Because you said it in a post all by itself, and I thought you were speaking for yourself. And when you say it again in that post, I still can't tell.


Cass - Dec 09, 2010 5:39:30 pm PST #16420 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Oh, I absolutely felt the demon dressed, did her hair and most of all acted in a far more provocative way than human!Meg. What I don't personally think is that she ever dressed slutty. Slutty was Meg's word and I wouldn't have used it.

But, yes, I think the demon dressed more provocatively. Tight red leather is a different statement than layered cotton peasant shirts even if the latter show off the body more. Personally I liked her style better as a demon, but I can see how the character might have felt differently.


§ ita § - Dec 09, 2010 8:19:38 pm PST #16421 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

While I think the demon dressed more provocatively, she's dressed unprovocatively enough that just using that word smacks of...well, I don't want to say "she was asking for it" because that's a huge level more serious that what I mean. I just don't think she's dressing provocatively at all, so it's a weird word to apply, and I'd be surprised if people were looking at her clothes and having...responses provoked.

But, then again, people. She just looks far more fashionably put together to me, and even more attractive. Just not provocative. She's not all out there, sartorially.