Young Simon: So... how'd the Independents cut us off? Young River: They were using dinosaurs.

'Safe'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Dec 06, 2010 11:58:15 am PST #16333 of 30002
Because books.

I just saw that! I was totally going to send one! Heh.


Atropa - Dec 06, 2010 12:02:51 pm PST #16334 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I've got to admit, even I am tempted to send Misha a SASE.

And from waaaay back:

(uh, that's TFW+Gabe sexing)

I'm sickly and slow right now. Gabe? Who is Gabe? Because I'm pretty sure ita isn't in bandom, so my knee-jerk assumption of Gabe Saporta has to be wrong.


Amy - Dec 06, 2010 12:11:09 pm PST #16335 of 30002
Because books.

Gabriel, babe, aka the Trickster.

(She's on NyQuil. It's okay.)


Atropa - Dec 06, 2010 12:19:20 pm PST #16336 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Oh! Right, and I should have remembered that. Wow, NyQuil really does screw up my brain. Good to know.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 06, 2010 12:19:36 pm PST #16337 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm pretty sure purgatory is a fairly Catholic concept, and as far as I know monsters (i.e. the wicked, the evil, any who egregiously are not in God's grace) would go straight to hell.

We know that vampires and those shifters who turned into dogs started out as human, and various other things might also. Perhaps Purgatory is needed to purify them from the influence of whatever curse turned them into monsters?

Depending on exactly how the cage operates, it's possible Lucifer and Michael aren't able to inflict any added torment on Sam. We know that just getting communication through to Azazel from within the cage was extremely difficult and required just the right circumstances. What we don't know is whether that's because it safely contains all the power of its prisoner and prevents him/them from affecting the world at large, or because it nullifies the power of anything locked in it. In the latter scenario, the archangels might have been limited to whining at their respective vessels.


Typo Boy - Dec 06, 2010 12:43:22 pm PST #16338 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Some of the more mystical sects in Judaism have a view of Gehenna that makes it a sort of purgatory. An analogy used is a great laundry where your soul is boiled and beaten and wrung until all the sin washes out. Maybe some sins are so bad that they never wash out, and those souls are eternally damned stuck in spin cycle forever. (Or maybe everyone gets clean after enough time has passed.) Most or all get reborn once the sin is out, and get to keep trying keep being laundered and reborn until they get a life right and make heaven. But being laundered is painful and , well, hellish. I think of it as a sort of super-therapy where you can't lie to yourself or therapist, and have to face to full consequences of everything you have done, and the full moral weight of all your actions and intentions. Effective but very very painful. And after you go through all that work, you have to forget what you've learned and try to do right just with however your soul has changed without being able to take any of that hard won self-knowledge with you.


Juliebird - Dec 06, 2010 3:41:04 pm PST #16339 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

One thing that I've been noticing, as Dean has been surrounded by the soulless and the naive, is that he is coming out with some very definitive views that feel new. And yeah, they're off the cuff, and I can't help think "he'd make a great dad". Answering all those awkward questions and responding to all those random surprise awkward moments that need a dispensation of wisdom. He's never felt more like a parent to me than in this season, whatever it's (numerous) flaws. I mean, having the answers (even if they're wrong) to questions that a normal person would never have to encounter (like what to do when a loved one is abducted and the surviving loved one is horny and bored and soulless).


§ ita § - Dec 06, 2010 5:58:34 pm PST #16340 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How did Meg get the knife, again?

Also, we don't know where the Colt is, do we?


Theresa - Dec 06, 2010 7:57:54 pm PST #16341 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

During my X-files education, I just watched an episode introducing Special Agent Manners. Most of his dialogue was obscured with bleep. Heh.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 06, 2010 8:11:31 pm PST #16342 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Presumably Meg took Ruby's knife off the guys when her minions had them tied up.

I think we haven't seen the Colt since Dean shot Lucifer with it.