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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Cass - Dec 04, 2010 7:42:26 pm PST #16276 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Why would he care who leers at Dean though?

I really wonder if something got cut that gave even a vague handwave as to why Sam killed that demon. Especially a demon who, when I was only half watching, looked like Sampa.


Morgana - Dec 04, 2010 8:08:40 pm PST #16277 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I did notice someone say that the demon Sam stabbed was the one that looked twice at Dean, the one Dean asked if he wanted to kiss him.

Was this someone a Sam/Dean shipper who was therefore wearing the tinfoil hat? You know, "he looked funny at my man and therefore must die?"


§ ita § - Dec 04, 2010 11:11:35 pm PST #16278 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sam has been focussed on two things without his soul, that the theoretically need not have been--hunting and Dean. They have no simple payoff like sex.

I'm not even remotely a Sam/Dean shipper, but if soulless Sam came through all this understanding two things (okay, not understanding two things, just knowing them--Dean and hunt monsters), killing that demon may have been the precise right choice to flex his muscles at the time.

He is a bit dismissive of Lisa, although that's easily read as disdain for emotional ties.


Cass - Dec 04, 2010 11:32:09 pm PST #16279 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I think he was dismissive of the emotional connection to Lisa. That was something that cold inhibit Dean's hunting. Just some sex wouldn't factor. Hell, Sam's been getting it all over. But, you know, after he looks for Dean in a field, so... It doesn't mess with business.


Morgana - Dec 05, 2010 2:46:32 am PST #16280 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

killing that demon may have been the precise right choice to flex his muscles at the time.

That was actually what I was thinking. Killing the demon eliminated a possibly unreliable member of the crew ("he wanted to kill us more than he wanted to work the job") and it allowed Sam to show very graphically "don't fuck with us." Win/win, as far as he was concerned.


Marcia - Dec 05, 2010 4:33:14 am PST #16281 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

...killing that demon may have been the precise right choice to flex his muscles at the time.

See, and I totally read that as an indication of Sam's well-honed hunter instinct. He read the body language of that demon and concluded he was a mole for Crowley, paying too much attention to the participants in the mission than the mission itself.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 05, 2010 6:18:20 am PST #16282 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

There's also the fact that doing so DID get the demon-killing knife back in Winchester hands. That's a huge thing when going into a dangerous situation with demons at your destination and tagging along with you.


Cass - Dec 05, 2010 1:59:00 pm PST #16283 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

There's also the fact that doing so DID get the demon-killing knife back in Winchester hands. That's a huge thing when going into a dangerous situation with demons at your destination and tagging along with you.

I totally saw it as a way for the writers to get the knife back in Winchester hands. What felt "huh?" to me was the "he wanted to kill us more than he wanted to work the job" line. Because, no, that guy was just standing there. Being evil. Like a demon.

I mean, I can handwave it amongst other things or say it's that soulless Sam easily tells lies (which I am cool with cause he's got no soul) but why does Meg buy it?


Theresa - Dec 05, 2010 7:31:11 pm PST #16284 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I believed Sam when he said it. I thought at the time that the demon was showing too much interest in Sam and Dean, posturing against Dean, so what Sam said made sense to me. The demon was a loose cannon that couldn't be trusted to stay on target.

I don't think it has to be more complicated.


Amy - Dec 06, 2010 4:15:37 am PST #16285 of 30002
Because books.

Hey, we won the TV Guide cover!