Mal: If anyone gets nosy, just, you know... shoot 'em. Zoe: Shoot 'em? Mal: Politely.

'Serenity'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Juliebird - Nov 16, 2010 3:12:39 pm PST #15846 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

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epiphenomena) of the physical world.

2.Non-reductive Physicalism is the view that mental properties form a separate ontological class to physical properties: mental states (such as qualia) are not reducible to physical states. The ontological stance towards qualia in the case of non-reductive physicalism does not imply that qualia are causally inert; this is what distinguishes it from epiphenomenalism.

I haven't read nor understood all of this, or even if any of it applies to Sam's situation. I disregarded any of the monist solutions, but there were several more interesting entries in wiki about Free Will and Self that I haven't had the energy to read yet.


Morgana - Nov 16, 2010 5:15:32 pm PST #15847 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Sam's reveal has clarified it for me--he's the only human we've seen without a soul

What about Aaron, who we saw in the episode where we met Balthazar? Wasn't he missing his soul until Balthazar was forced to return it?

I wonder now if Sam will come together with absolutely no memory of Hell, since his "conciousness" was never there

I'm not sure what to hope for, from a storytelling perspective. Because at the moment the "happy ending" we're looking forward to, the return of Sam's soul to the empty shell currently travelling about with Dean, would seem to promise a whole boatload of traumatized/freaked-out/climbing up the walls and across the ceiling Sammy. That's if indeed he's awake and aware of what's going on while he's locked in with Lucifer and Michael. It wouid make for an interesting fanfic, but I think it would be a pretty grim set of episodes watching Sam fight his way through something like that. (Or maybe not, considering Show doesn't tend to linger over aftereffects very often.)

Dean came back with his memories intact, and he came back with angelic intervention. If Sam comes back without the aid of benign powers I wouldn't think whoever is helping him would be interested in cushioning his psyche by helping him forget.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2010 5:34:34 pm PST #15848 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What about Aaron, who we saw in the episode where we met Balthazar? Wasn't he missing his soul until Balthazar was forced to return it?

There was no clear indication that that wasn't a lien like the one Crowley had on Bobby.

Or maybe not, considering Show doesn't tend to linger over aftereffects very often.

To be fair, Dean's started sleeping in his clothes, primarily above the covers, and drinking harder after he came back. They can't possibly be realistic (since no one recovers from that shit), so I think they put a fair marker on ongoing damage.


Amy - Nov 16, 2010 5:38:37 pm PST #15849 of 30002
Because books.

They also showed Dean having nightmares and flashbacks. They just used his usual "repress, repress, repress" behavior as a way to make him (mostly) functional.


Amy - Nov 17, 2010 3:37:51 am PST #15850 of 30002
Because books.

I think this could be one of Misha's finest moments. Or something.


Ailleann - Nov 17, 2010 3:59:41 am PST #15851 of 30002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

I just.... what?


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2010 4:24:34 am PST #15852 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, good god, Misha.

Also, more power tools.

I don't even...


sumi - Nov 17, 2010 6:13:10 am PST #15853 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

That was excellent. I subscribed to his youtube feed and watched his other video. Hilarious.


Ginger - Nov 17, 2010 6:31:01 am PST #15854 of 30002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Dear Misha,

One word. Chainsaw. (Or bow saw or pruning saw or practically anything other than what you were using.)


Theresa - Nov 17, 2010 10:51:59 am PST #15855 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Do you get the feeling that Misha's mother is only now recovering from her PTSD of raising him?

Misha: "I've got a great idea!"

Mother: "Lord, help us."