I fed off a flowerperson, and I spent the next six hours watchin' my hand move.

Spike ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Nov 02, 2010 2:25:27 pm PDT #15404 of 30002
Because books.

::claps hands and bounces::

Man, Friday seems far away.


Lee - Nov 02, 2010 2:26:37 pm PDT #15405 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Side note: You all should be very jealous of me, because ita just sent me Dean artwork, which is fabulous!


Amy - Nov 02, 2010 2:29:41 pm PDT #15406 of 30002
Because books.

Me, too, me, too! I have artwork with Sam!


Juliebird - Nov 02, 2010 2:34:43 pm PDT #15407 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Wheee!

I feel cheated that we didn't get to actually see Cas removing his belt. /is a perv.


Juliebird - Nov 02, 2010 2:47:22 pm PDT #15408 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

serial: This is like the best twitfic ever (even though I only just learned what a twitfic was):

Dean narrowed his aquamarine eyes, moss colored flecks flashing as he peered at Castiel's sapphire orbs.

"I hate this fandom," he grunted.


§ ita § - Nov 03, 2010 8:39:54 am PDT #15409 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I feel kind of at a loss now that the D/C BB is over. Which of course means it's time to review all the stories and bookmark appropriately, but...new long stuff?

Oh, right. Reverse big bang. I love this fandom.

I've watched last week's episode twice now, and am ready to go again.

So what's a soul in SPN? It's not the animating force--is it like Buffy, kinda, the conscience and empathy? I've seen people insisting that Sam does feel, so that's not it, but I get the impression that it's the "better" human emotions he no longer gets instinctively, although he intellectually still understands them.

It's not as much the conscience as on Buffy, because he's still doing good. He's just cold--he's dead inside even more than Dean was reputed to be by Famine.

But he does still want things. It's confusing.


§ ita § - Nov 03, 2010 8:50:54 am PDT #15410 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

serial:

And can I say, obviously, how chuffed I was that Lisa mentioned Dean's drinking? Y'all know I'm obsessed, but I thought it was way too obvious to be trivial, still.

And, of course, Castiel pouring him the drink with no verbal communication on the topic had me pleased as punch. No pun intended. Any Show non-verbal communication pleases me, but when it's facilitating an addiction, it's even better.

How much were we supposed to take away that the truth didn't remotely make Dean suicidal? Even if Sam had told the truth, he's obviously closer to homicidal than anything else. Lisa depressed the hell out of him (and how I love that Dean), and Bobby grossed him out, but it didn't look like Veritas was going to have a simple time getting her tribute out of him.


Ailleann - Nov 03, 2010 8:55:05 am PDT #15411 of 30002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

but it didn't look like Veritas was going to have a simple time getting her tribute out of him.

What I thought was awesome about that is that no one knows better than Dean that the truth is never simple, and a truth doesn't have to be the whole truth.


Amy - Nov 03, 2010 9:07:38 am PDT #15412 of 30002
Because books.

I think Sam is doing good, yes, but he's not actually motivated by the good end (which is what I took away from him telling Dean that he needed him). He's hunting, because he's good at it, and it *feels* good for values of feel that maybe right now equal only the physical sensations of adrenaline rush and endorphins, or maybe a kind of cerebral curiosity being satisfied.

It plays really well with Sam paying for a prostitute -- if he knows he can't make an emotional connection right now or anymore, he can still *feel* (physically) good in the sack.

How much were we supposed to take away that the truth didn't remotely make Dean suicidal?

I'm not sure he was quite there yet, but I don't buy that he wouldn't get there. Dean is nothing if not pragmatic, and at that point he still had a case to work, something to focus on, i.e. Sam. If Sam had died or taken off or whatever, the suicidal impulse might have risen its head a little more boldly.

I think, sadly, that Dean is also very well aware of the truth of his life, and a lot of people aren't. So it's not as much of a surprise to him as it would be to some folks that his life is made of a lot of suck.


§ ita § - Nov 03, 2010 10:03:00 am PDT #15413 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So it's not as much of a surprise to him as it would be to some folks that his life is made of a lot of suck.

Yeah, he's pretty much written the book on examination of the downside of his life, and he's never actually looking at the good stuff. So what can the truth tell him now and make it worse?

I'm reading people's opinion that Lisa's speech makes Wincest essentially canon. Are these people that can't conceive of a complicated platonic relationship? An unhealthy but non-sexual one? I totally don't get it.

I wonder how much Lisa we'll see from here on in. I don't want her to be killed to free up Dean, but I do think she was highly right (and should have been dealing with this all along), and a reconciliation would make me twitchy.