They're selling Sam's Charger. There's a link there to the ebay auction, in case anybody's actually interested.

The guy who buys, sells, and maintains the show's onscreen vehicles contacted this fan--she's the one who bought Truckzilla--and asked her to put the word out in fandom. So, you know, there you go, if you're in the market.

Given the history with soul dealing, it seems to me Bobby retained possession of his soul until his bill would come due with Crowley in 10 years. Show has never indicated the soul was taken at the time the deal was made. What fun would that be for a demon if the human didn't care that he/she will be burning in hell in 10 years? This is delicious torture from a demon's perspect (one would assume).

Sam's soul was taken, given away or lost on his way back from the pit. I'm willing to bet Crowley (King of Hell) had something to do with it just because of Sam's and Crowley's brief interaction in the graveyard in Scotland.

Okay I loved that episode even as hurt-y as it was.

When Dean gave that speech to the God about essentially being a killer and that Sam is just like him, I had my "woah" moment. Serial killer brothers indeed, Criminal Minds did a story about you. Someone here made that parallel before I seem to remember.

I am not sure yet where the writer's are going, but if you see Dean as the big brother/parent figure at all then that was a pretty profound moment of self-awareness on his part, recognizing his influence (though only the destructive aspect) on everyone in his life, mostly Sam. It gave me chills when he said he was a killer. Sam's beat down seemed as much about how much Dean's lost as about trying to make Sam feel something (and possibly pragmatic, I assume he's headed to Bobby's). In the promo Sam looked fine. I hope Cas heals Sam and we don't have a repercussion free Sam next week. That was a serious beat down.

I'm intrigued by souless Sam. I don't doubt the big arc will be getting his soul back. Cass, I also don't get the comparison to crossroad demons. The souls in every case seemed to remain with their occupant, I assume 'til their deal's up and they're dead. This is something else. I wonder if the alpha monsters are related or incidental.

Morgana, for me, the ship has sailed on Sam returning to any semblance of his past life. I let that go pretty much in S1 during Devil's Trap. I think he's on a different path, and I'm VERY interested in where it takes him. I agree with Amy, I think there's character growth there, it's just deeply twisted and painful, like his brother's. These guys are killers. Can they ever be anything else? I guess that remains to be seen.

Oh show, really attention whore? I wish they hadn't said that. I would have been fine with our God of the week and potentially even the unfortunate boob job gag if only they hadn't called it out as attention whoring. Sigh. I'd like the show to stop using the word whore, it just makes me cringe with their women-issues every time.

Lisa, on the other hand, rocked! Yes, she said what she absolutely should have. She was tough as nails and I approve. Now I am conflicted. Easy out right here, the character can walk away unscathed, unsullied by their creepy women-issues. It's tempting to wish for that to be it. I like Lisa though, and really I hope this isn't the last we see of her and Ben.

I can see Ben doing something stupid and willful against her wishes that brings the boys back into her life.

Easy out right here, the character can walk away unscathed, unsullied by their creepy women-issues. It's tempting to wish for that to be it. I like Lisa though, and really I hope this isn't the last we see of her and Ben.

This is me.

And I think Amy is spot on (as usual) with her analysis of Sam.

I was worried this was turning into a yawn season like season three was for me. But it's not. I was glued to the screen last night and when the screen went to credits, I looked at the clock not believing it was over yet. I don't know where Sera is going or if I will like it, but it is keeping me captivated.

For the record, I still love Sam. I don't read other places that don't love both of my boys.

I am pissed that they blatantly had Bobby say Dean was his favorite while under the influence of the truth spell. From another parental figure like Ellen or even John that wouldn't have bothered me (beyond, you know, thinking "poor Sam!" while nodding), but I think it was a mistake to have Bobby make that choice.

You know, I don't quite get why everyone thinks it's so inexplicable that various monsters are all stirred up and acting weird. Over the last two years there were angels and demons fighting all over the place, with Lucifer being freed, causing major havoc across the globe, and apparently killing a fair cross section of pagan gods. And those creatures weren't in the know about the Apocalypse being cancelled in the season 5 finale. It stands to reason those events would have been like kicking over a hornet's nest for all the lower grade supernatural menaces.

I didn't get the feeling that the stirred up was the key point--it was more that they are stirred up, moving way outside of their normal habitat, and most important of all, not afraid of hunters.

I am pissed that they blatantly had Bobby say Dean was his favorite while under the influence of the truth spell.

This didn't bother me, other than thinking "ouchie" and poor Sammy. Sam has Dean. He always has Dean, for better or worse.

The rest of Bobby's truthiness was hysterical.

Banana & a late brunch:

These boys are so fucked up. Someone just posted on LJ about how devastated they were by Dean's beat down of Sam. I started thinking about my own reaction and I realized something, Dean was expressing his love through his fists. See, fucked up.

If Sam had become something Dean couldn't love he would have killed him or simply walked away. Dean can't do that. Dean may not like Sam much right now, but Jesus, he loves him to death.

I think it took me longer to see that part, ehab, although I agree. He was also just so angry, and so alone! That moment when he says "It's been a really bad day" and passes his hand over his face? Completely desolation.

But I agree -- he could have walked away or killed Sam, and he didn't. Still, so hard to watch!

I'm still digesting and in need of a rewatch. I have half-formed thoughts about Sam and his role throughout the seasons. On one hand, yes, there's been a lot of "Something's wrong with him" from the second season onward, and even in the first he was angry and vengeful. But it's also flowed and rippled outward from a definite single source*. It's not like every season it's been "in what new way can we make Sam twisted and dark that is totally different and unrelated to how he was dark and twisted before".

On the other hand, that storyline has been playing out for a very long time now, and it feels played out and should be resolved and set aside.

On the first hand, ignoring all that has come before except for the very basic set-up that Sam had been in Hell with Lucifer in a very special cage, the idea that him being freed without consequences is ludicrous. That he's come back wrong is necessary for believability - for me.

aesc had an interesting question about the subjectivity/objectivity of the truths spoken [link]

*Azazel feeding his demon blood to 6 month old Sammy, Sam's fear that there was something dark inside him in season 2 because of that, Azazel's games leading to his death, to Dean's deal, to Dean's death, to Sam's inability to deal with that and drinking of demon blood, his trying to take control, do something good with something dark and overcome the monster he thinks he is/has inside him, which he does when he takes in Lucifer and jumps into the pit. And now the consequences of him being out of it, and how and why that happened. archie rants rather nicely about the sloppy execution of all this here [link]