Oh, dear. You know, given the thing with demons being basically ghosts, I could see them trying to tie everything together into a single cohesive-ish mythology, and so making the alphas of each "species" angels, and then the "monsters" basically nephilim would qualify, I suppose.

I don't think I like it, but I could see them going there.

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Debet, that sounds disturbingly like a possibility, especially recalling the exras on the S4 dvd set.

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Debet, yeah. You explained better than I, but that's kind of explains where I think they are going.

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Apparently we're coming in second after Chuck in the TVGuide cover poll, so keep voting if you're of a mind (till Nov. 1).

Now with helpful link: [link]

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I rewatched The Third Man. I'm not sure Sam was being snarky to Cas, but I think you could make a case for it.

My love for "My 'people skills' are 'rusty'" continues.

I'm so nervous about this week's episode, it's making me a little twitchy.

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Because there's been two vids done to Florence and the Machine,, and Lungs is my latest album on repeat, I now desire a vid done to Blinding. Something AUish about Dean and/or Sam and all the times they've died for each other, or hell, all the characters who have died and come back. Except in the vid they don't, and it's about the survivor having to accept that the Dean/Sam/etc. stayed dead. Something dark and slightly fucked up.

"No more dreaming of the dead as if death itself was undone. No more cawing like a crow for a boy, for a body in the garden*2. No more dreaming like a girl so in love with the wrong world*1."

Eps to possibly include: Faith, In My Time of Dying, 1*What Is and What Should Never Be, 2*All Hell Breaks Loose part I, Mystery Spot, No Rest for the Wicked, Death Takes a Holiday, Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, Abandon All Hope, Dark Side of the Moon, and Swan Song.

Man, these boys die A LOT.

The vid could start with Faith and then go chronologically backwards from Swan Song/Exile on Main St., undoing all the resurrections starting with Swan Song, all the way back to Dean's electrocution in Faith, and ending with Sam and John alive and moving forward without Dean.

For those who don't know the song and vaguely care: [link] Figured I choose the one that actually vids to Snow White.

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Ouchy Cas vid: [link] "Like You Never Had Wings" by Coty. Warning for outside footage (most notably Heroes).

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OMG, that's definitely the most beautiful thing I've seen all day. He's wearing everything on that face. BABY!

Seriously. That's the prettiest picture of Misha I have ever seen. If I didn't already, that would make me love him forever.

I'd love to see Missouri again.

Oh heck yes!

Sam! How can I love you so much, and yet you're still not my favourite? It boggles the mind.

Everyone knows Dean is my favorite, but I would never tell Sam that. I'd tell him that of course I loved both of my boys equally. Which I do. Just Dean more. Which hurts to even write.

Already forgot both story and author who spelled it "Stalls" cemetary.

If you are going to mishear, wouldn't it be Skull cemetary? The first time someone talked about going out there, that is what I thought they said. And I thought at the time that was a seriously fucking scary name for a cemetary. Then my boyfriend said, "no, stull, with a t", and I was like, "oh, well in that case, sure!"

so not my night. hotel does NOT have the CW.

I SO know that pain.

I liked Sam having a place (car) of his own, too, fitted up the way he liked it.

I did like that Dean *had* to "make room. I picked up some stuff along the way (and I'm not ditching it with my car)".

This.

If they wanted to use this episode as a backdoor pilot for a spin-off, I would happily watch The Bobby and Rufus Show .

Oh! Yes! I also want the Young John and Mary Show, and the Ellen and Jo Show as well.

I'm imagining the new SPN/Torchwood/Harry Potter xovers being written right now with the Winchester boys abroad.

OMG--Dean and Capt. Jack. I'll be in my bunk.

I was worried about a Bobby-centric show because the writers haven't always done well by him in the past, but they knocked it out of the park with this episode. Bobby and Rufus are a great grumpy pair. The levity they brought was welcome.

I was feeling the same way. I was starting to blame Jim Beaver, but clearly after this episode, that is not the place of blame. That was great.

This song came up on my playlist, I've listened to it dozens of times before over the past year or so. Suddenly it was a Sam song. M. Ward's "Right in the Head"

I haven't heard it, but now I'm very sad that I won't hear Johnny Cash sing those lyrics.

Oh, ha, I kept trying to figure out how Gavin fit into Highlander.

This is where my brain went as well.

I love that Sampa glommed onto it too. I hope he shares his fears with Dean or vice versa.

I like that they have turned it to where now I trust Sampa more than Sam. Until Sampa questioning Sam, I didn't trust Sampa at all.

Dean probably is ashamed at the idea of facing Ben again.

I'm sure he has no idea what to say.

This is what I was thinking. How are any of them going to get over Dean pushing Ben? Yelling at him was one thing. This is on a different level. They will all know Dean wasn't himself, but will that matter?

Is it possible that "Sam" is really Adam?

Now that is something I hadn't considered. Huh.

i'm hoping that next week we really, truly get answers for Sam's behaviour. to be honest, i'm kind of tired of ambiguous Sam and the brothers being kept apart emotionally or physically. want brothers show back.

This.

OMG it's good to be back in SPN land. I like that evidently from Sampa questioning Sam, I was wrong about Sampa being evil. Yay!

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I was wrong about Sampa being evil. Yay!

There is more than one way to be evil.

I still don't want to like him.

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I still don't want to like him.

I haven't rewatched yet. I was just so surprised, and then surprised at being surprised.

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