Prepare to uncouple -- uncouple.

Oz ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Oct 09, 2010 5:18:39 pm PDT #14812 of 30002
Because books.

WHERE IS THE BALTHAZAR/CASTIEL, DAMMIT?

Give a girl a chance. Sheesh.

I want an animated icon of Cas doing the air quotes RIGHT NOW, myself. I could watch that forever.


§ ita § - Oct 09, 2010 5:33:48 pm PDT #14813 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am disappointed in fandom...disappointed, I tell you.

Okay, not that disappointed. Still, want more fic.


Juliebird - Oct 09, 2010 5:40:44 pm PDT #14814 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

It's interesting that some of the BB's have incorporated spoilers from season 6 into their premises. However, I think I've liked maybe 2, but not enough to reread or bookmark. I'll give fandom some time to get their act together on all the opportunities The Third Man gave them, however. Like, a week.


Morgana - Oct 09, 2010 6:20:41 pm PDT #14815 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Mmm. My bet is totally on something I wrong with Sam; possession, eviltude, I don't know what. But it ain't no, "Oh, this is just how I reacted to Hell differently."

I just read someone throwing around the theory that maybe Sam came back without a soul, and that one of the story arcs this season will be the search to regain it. (I can just see them now, looking for whatever tree - a mighty redwood, no doubt - is housing Sam's soul.)


§ ita § - Oct 09, 2010 6:33:30 pm PDT #14816 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Will having no soul make him act differently, like Bobby or that kid?


Morgana - Oct 09, 2010 6:44:42 pm PDT #14817 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

By "that kid" you mean the antiChrist? Wasn't his name Jesse? Anyway, Sam has been acting differently, no one disagrees about that. It's just a matter of figuring out why.


Juliebird - Oct 09, 2010 6:48:50 pm PDT #14818 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Bobby didn't act differently sans soul. Not that I discount Sam missing his as an interesting possibility. I just don't see it as the source for the difference in behaviour.


-t - Oct 09, 2010 6:51:04 pm PDT #14819 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

When did Bobby not have a soul?


§ ita § - Oct 09, 2010 6:52:03 pm PDT #14820 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

No, I meant Aaron in that episode. So far the people we've been shown who've traded away their souls acted reasonably normally.

Maybe Sam didn't have a bad time in Hell. Maybe he had a good Boy King Hosting Luci time in Hell. So he's feeling a bit above it all back here on Earth.

I wonder about Adam. A throwaway line would be nice.

Also--the assumption that they don't have to ring up Cas anymore and tell him their location...are they both sigiled up? Are they psychically telling him where they are when they reach out for him?

Where has his vessel been chilling all this while? Is it Anna style? I mean, while he was existing as a multi-deminsional wavelength of celestial intent.


Juliebird - Oct 09, 2010 7:04:51 pm PDT #14821 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I have actually given up any hope that we will ever get anythiing definitive on Jimmy and his body. I'm resigning myself to the strategy of writers saying as little as possible so they have don't run into that pesky problem of concrete facts that would limit the story of the week they want to tell. I get it. I don't like it, but I get it.

That said, I want to know, definitively and concretely:
-did Cas remove his handprint when he healed Dean in Stull, with his new and improved powers?
-did Cas remove the sigils on Dean's ribs (and, why --same goes for the above)
-Is Jimmy dead? and how long has Jimmy been dead? and is that Jimmy's actual body?

I want to know these things, but, if I'm honest, I don't expect to be satisfied on any front. I expect them to be all dropped like a knife without a bungee cord.