I mean, let's say you did kill us. Or didn't. There could be torture. Whatever. But somehow you found the goods. What would your cut be?

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Juliebird - Oct 07, 2010 11:03:10 pm PDT #14720 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Destiny of a Hunter was awful.

oh good, I didn't finish it.

Wow, wandersfound explains how Dean is attracted to Jimmy in the space of a paragraph. Way to force the matter. That wasn't slapped on at all.


§ ita § - Oct 08, 2010 4:53:47 am PDT #14721 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wandersfound did a lot of explaining and very little expressing. I found her story disappointing. I still don't buy why Jimmy was attracted to Dean, why he wouldn't go home, or all in all what happened between them.

But Destiny of a Hunter was plain badfic.


§ ita § - Oct 08, 2010 6:08:49 am PDT #14722 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But in happier news, Supernatural day!

Elsewhere I read a suggestion that Sampa had been raised from Hell, and that's where he was taking his suggestions from. Hmmph. Why would he go to hell? I don't want Mary's father to have been hellbound. I think I'd prefer rogue angels. They're pretty bad themselves. But at least he'd have been in Heaven.


SuziQ - Oct 08, 2010 6:48:01 am PDT #14723 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Watching Sam, Interrupted this morning. I have heard people debate Dean's comments about Babar the Elephant and the 50 drinks comment. But why assume he is a reliable narrator here? Yes, telling the truth got them admitted, but neither comment came off as the truth. The not having children's books comments felt like an excuse to cover using Dr. Babar as part of their cover. And the 50 drinks felt like Dean showing off and exagerrating.

At least that is my take on it.


§ ita § - Oct 08, 2010 6:53:05 am PDT #14724 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What's showing off about 50 drinks? It sounds like a sad, frank thing, like everything else he said to his fictional therapist. In fact, I'm assuming that what he said to her was probably the most honest he's been all season, and that's probably the point of her fake existence.

As for stuff he says to maintain a cover, I consider that completely different--he doesn't say he never had children's books, by the way. What he does do is quote Fletch.


Amy - Oct 08, 2010 7:18:31 am PDT #14725 of 30002
Because books.

Why did I *just* now do the math? That's seven drinks a day, plus one. God.


SuziQ - Oct 08, 2010 7:49:44 am PDT #14726 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

While I do think Dean is more honest with his fictional therapist, I also felt like he was letting his inner fears form his remarks to her. Being responsible for every life on the planet, 50 drinks a week, and so on.


§ ita § - Oct 08, 2010 8:14:40 am PDT #14727 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Dean's confessions to the the fictional therapist are basically that he feels like he alone has to save the world, that he sleeps 3-4 hours a week, that he drinks around 50 drinks a week to get that much sleep and has never had a long term relationship.

They all sounded like things he believes about himself. I don't see where that much drinking counts as a fear or showing off. Combined with the amount we do get to see him drink (like the detritus in Dark Side of the Moon) I don't see any rationale for unreliable narrator, especially since it seems pretty simple to accept everything else--or do you think he was lying about the rest too?

It just seems Occam's razorish for me.


Amy - Oct 08, 2010 8:56:39 am PDT #14728 of 30002
Because books.

I doubt he counts every drink every day. But I think he was being honest with the therapist, and "fifty drinks a week" sounds like the kind of estimate he'd give when he knows he's drinking a hell of a lot on a daily basis just to sleep, with or without nightmares.


Laga - Oct 08, 2010 9:29:46 am PDT #14729 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

When I watched the episode, I thought he was exaggerating but now I'm not so sure.

Yay show day!