As a long-term relationship, with a kid, I'd be awfully pissed to do all the parenting and money-making, and just have someone come by "when they can."

Ben's her son. It'd be odd for her to pissed at raising him. Dean has neither married her nor adopted him nor made any other formal commitment to raising him. She was also fiscally responsible for herself before Dean showed up, and we're assuming she's not supporting him, no? So why would she be annoyed at continuing to support herself and her child?

I think I noticed Sam giving Dean the side eye at him pouring himself a drink. I still maintain they've been pretty consistent about showing us he's still consistently partaking.

I still maintain they've been pretty consistent about showing us he's still consistently partaking.

I agree. Given that consistency, I can't help but wonder if it's a plot point to some future purpose.

The drink Dean had at the motel raised my eyebrows more the one at home last week, just because he was 'on duty' at the time.

ita, I cede that for sure, but when you have a relationship with another person, it means sharing your life, and all the good and bad, including parenting and financials, which Dean has obviously been doing.

I don't think she's wrong for trying more of a LDR thing; I'm just hoping that if it would seem to work, then it would be more than just him dropping in whenever. That doesn't seem good for her or Ben.

It seems like she would be selling herself short; "I'll take whatever I can get of you." That doesn't seem healthy.

That said, I'm extrapolating from what we see on-screen and for the future. She is a pretty practical laid-back chick, but she seems pretty down with letting him roam back and forth into her life. If she wasn't a parent, or had a really young child, it wouldn't ping me. But she doesn't.

It seems like she would be selling herself short; "I'll take whatever I can get of you." That doesn't seem healthy.

It pinged me a little this way too. On the flip side, though, she's called Dean on his shit pretty consistently and she doesn't flinch from the reality of the situation. So I'm willing to go with the idea she's testing the waters and will be evaluating how it all works.

when you have a relationship with another person, it means sharing your life, and all the good and bad, including parenting and financials, which Dean has obviously been doing.

Dean has obviously been contributing to parenting, and that was important to her, but I think quite rightly that Dean's happiness is more important to her than an additional parent. And we don't actually know what their financial arrangement was--I think it would be kinda irresponsible of her to have become dependent on him.

I think she was crazy to let the damaged man into her house and keep a gun under her bed with her young son down the hall, but the bit where she's ultimately responsible for raising her son and paying her own bills pings me not at all. If she were leaning on him more I'd be irritated--in fact, it pinged me when she threw the Daddy card at Dean during 6x01. Helping raise Ben is a gift from him to her, not a requirement.

Lisa knew about the monsters under the bed before Dean moved in. I find it surprising that she hadn't already asked him to teach her to fire a gun. If I were in her place I would have pressed for lessons in drawing a devil's trap and performing an exorcism besides.

I don't think she's financially dependent on him, or assigning him at equal responsibility for Ben; for ME, and I think many people, a relationship when you have a kid would require more than a LDR might offer.

I'm prepared to see; these are just my thinking on it.

But word, Laga; I would totally be all "You need to teach me basic precautions" even IF she was giving Dean the boot. Like installing carbon monoxide detectors or something. A sensible measure.

I think many people, a relationship when you have a kid would require more than a LDR might offer.

Why? She doesn't have to do any more parenting or spend any more money than before he showed up. This way, she gets laid sometimes.

We weren't shown a woman clinging to the tatters of a relationship, or anything. She told him she'd do fine without him, in contradiction to her (IMO unappealing) pleas of the previous episode.

I guess I just don't understand why a single mother needs more in that way. If she can adjust Ben to "he's not your Dad, but he gets to help out" it seems perfectly reasonable behaviour.

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Single and Childless.

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