Dean in track pants?!

Um...that was underwhelming.

Obviously, Sam came back wrong, or it's not Sam, or some such shit. The impala thing is too, too anvil-y.

I thought it was facile, slow and almost boring. Except for Sad Dean. The montage was great.

Ok, I am so fucking tired, and am going to sleep on it. I know it's the premiere, but I thought it dragged like whoa.

I can understand that they wanted to let Dean have whatever bit of normality he could grab onto, but letting him live with the belief that Sam was in hell, particularly after he experienced it up close and personally, was cruel. No two ways about it.

I can totally believe Bobby would keep it a secret so Dean would stay out of the life.

I don't have a dvr so I can't go back and watch, but when Bobby was kinda yelling about how Dean has a woman (or a wife) and a kid it got to me. There wasn't longing in his voice exactly but there was something.

Esp after recently watching the zombie episode where Bobby's wife came back.

It was a little anti climatic after the finale but I'm not sure how they could have kept up the feeling of the finale.

I'm not sure Sam came back wrong as much as Hell has Changed Sam.

Exactly - way too cruel.

Ridiculous.

And then, Dean believed that Sam was Sam far too easily.

I am confused. I'm not confused by the events themselves: I followed the plotline. Everything just felt...odd, not right. I had several moments of wtf (as opposed to hsq or omgwtfpolarbear).

We're starting the season with a whole mindfuck of "what's real?" Which I'd really hoped would be deeper than "No, Dean, you're hallucinating the YED. Everything else is real." And, with the breaking glass of the titles, and the generally slightly off feeling, and the characters themselves being kind of "yeah, we've got nothing," I'm expecting some reality-fuck, in a long-ish term way. I know Dean was our PoV character for the ep, and he was very much in the confused, angry, and armed camp, but, yeah, several flavors of wtf.

Do we know of any tests for angel posession?

I'm expecting some reality-fuck, in a long-ish term way. I know Dean was our PoV character for the ep, and he was very much in the confused, angry, and armed camp, but, yeah, several flavors of wtf.

There's a definite "other side of the mirror" feeling, and the titles fit right in.

I didn't find it slow or underwhelming at all. I thought it was fascinating to look at a year out, with Dean actually enjoying the life he'd chosen (and realizing how much it had come to mean to him).

Now Sam is the one trying to pull Dean back in, which is an awesome twist on the pilot, but (to me) there are several shades of Not Right going on, and Dean's going to have get to the bottom of it. I'm happily along for the ride.

Also very glad that Lisa apparently went into their relationship with her eyes open, fighting for what she wanted ("It was the best year of my life") because I'll stand behind someone actively making that choice even if it's risky.

Also very glad that Lisa apparently went into their relationship with her eyes open, fighting for what she wanted ("It was the best year of my life") because I'll stand behind someone actively making that choice even if it's risky.

I really, really like the Lisa we were shown. She's not a cardboard cutout and she has agency.

Dean barefoot, in track pants, driving a truck and working construction was like a full-on assault on my libido. I understand what you're all saying, but only in the sense that I think, "OMG HOW ARE THEY SO DELUSIONAL?"

am disgusted that he's self-aware enough to say he's a cold-hearted sonofabitch, and puts the onus on Dean to keep him human without taking any responsibility himself?

I missed that conversation, and I just fastforwarded through the episode trying to catch it, and couldn't find it. Whereabouts did it happen?

He didn't exactly say that. But I think she's refering to the end of the episode where Dean says he got djinn on them by rushing out side to help his neighbors and Sam was saying that's why he needed him. Because Dean would go without thinking and Sam wouldn't think about it.