When you look back at this, in the three seconds it'll take you to turn to dust, I think you'll find the mistake was touching my stuff.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Sep 01, 2010 7:06:47 pm PDT #13261 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah. Gaiman needs a subtle touch. Kripke can say some impressive things, and let some other impressive enough stuff stay unsaid, but that's not the same thing as being deft.

Death? Delirium? Desire?

Hmmm.


-t - Sep 01, 2010 7:09:14 pm PDT #13262 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I agree with the link that TV is probably a better medium for Sandman than film. Other than that, I don't quite know how to react. Wait and see if anything comes of it, I suppose.


Cass - Sep 01, 2010 7:12:03 pm PDT #13263 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Um... A lot of Gaiman things fall through? Which is to say, "But do I trust Kripke with Death from the Sandman?" No, not so much. But I like to be pleasantly surprised, so I can be hopeful? Okay, I can try.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 01, 2010 7:12:41 pm PDT #13264 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Get ahold of this rumour: Neil Gaiman’s ‘Sandman’ Moving to TV, Possibly With ‘Supernatural’ Creator Eric Kripke on Board.

Wow, so Seasons 4 and 5 really were the world's most elaborate pitch meeting to woo an author!


Atropa - Sep 01, 2010 7:14:13 pm PDT #13265 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Death? Delirium? Desire?

::clutches head::

No, I don't trust him with any of those characters. Sorry, I just don't. I fear he'd fall into the trap of making Death and Delirium too cutesy. Death is charming-but-pragmatic, and Del is charming but unsettling. (IMO, and I admit that I may have irrational attachment issues about the Sandman characters.)


Atropa - Sep 01, 2010 7:14:45 pm PDT #13266 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Wow, so Seasons 4 and 5 really were the world's most elaborate pitch meeting to woo an author!

Bwhaahahahahahahahaha!


-t - Sep 01, 2010 7:18:41 pm PDT #13267 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, I think I'm with you, Cass. Willing to be pleasantly surprised.


Atropa - Sep 01, 2010 7:22:08 pm PDT #13268 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I want to be willing to be pleasantly surprised, but Sandman is one of the few things I will get irrationally fangirly about.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 01, 2010 7:39:43 pm PDT #13269 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Hopefully Neil will have creative control of all the major aspects, particularly casting?


Typo Boy - Sep 01, 2010 7:57:39 pm PDT #13270 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I totally get what Jilli is saying. The Endless are NEVER harmless. They are more powerful than Gods. But like Gods, they will fuck up humans to win a bet, or on a whim. They will punish as ruthlessly for minor offenses as for grand attacks.

Think of "cute harmless" (something I know nobody here would say but I fear Kripke) Delirium ordering little chocolate people filled with raspberry creme in Brief Lives, bringing them to life:

... the two surviving chocolate people copulate desperately, losing themselves in a melting frenzy of lust, spending the last of their brief borrowed lives in a spasm of raspberry cream and fear.

And yet Delirium is also genuinely vulnerable and and friendly and curious. And it takes a heck of a touch to get both aspects. Poor broken girl. Delirium who used to be Delight. Friendly, well meaning. And yet also deadly dangerous. Will cut you (metaphorically) and does not need a reason.

And Dream and Death are much more difficult than Delirium. Desire may seem more 1-dimensional, and yet shehe too is complex and takes careful understanding. Desire is unstoppable lust and obsession, but also the sibling who is insanely jealous of his/her brother Dream, yet loves that brother more fiercely than she/he can admit.