We'd be dead. Can't get paid if you're dead.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 13, 2009 1:36:54 pm PDT #1303 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think the reason Sam didn't call the EMTs is because Ruby has sucked (or some other rhyming verb) every last bit of common sense out of his head.

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that she's playing a long game and corrupting him to some end other than just having a handy demon-killing tool in hot boyfriend form.


Lee - Mar 13, 2009 1:50:15 pm PDT #1304 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I just figured anyone who should have died was going to be reaped anyway, and she was a lost cause. Saving didn't even occur to me.

I didn't think she'd survive, but I thought the reason Sam didn't even try was because Pamela needed to be near Dean's body.


Atropa - Mar 13, 2009 2:15:31 pm PDT #1305 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

What I want to know is why Pamela didn't have some sort of protective amulet, conjure bag, or was standing in a protective circle. If you are even vaguely occult-y and have to go work with the Winchester boys, you should take precautions.


Marcia - Mar 13, 2009 2:45:27 pm PDT #1306 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that she's playing a long game and corrupting him to some end other than just having a handy demon-killing tool in hot boyfriend form.

I don't trust Ruby. I could be wrong, but I find her appearance after Azazel's death just a little too convenient. Ruby was clearly aware of Sam's latent abilities from the start and managed to mold herself into something of a confidante for Sam in S3.

Then in S4, after all of Sam's efforts to bring Dean back failed, Ruby returned and offered Lilith's destruction as a means to help fill the Dean-shaped hole in Sam. At the the same time, she managed to finally become the only person Sam would trust.

Also, Alastair and Ruby seem to be able to enter and exit hell at will. Ruby was in hell for what? A month before she returned? She said as part of her deal to be sent back, she was supposed to kill Sam. And yet, the Crossroads demon Sam tried to deal with refused Sam's offer, saying things were just the way they wanted them to be. And really, after Ruby spent hundreds of years ("back when the Plague was big") in hell, how can Lilith think a month in hell was enough "rehab" for Ruby to be trusted with such a task?

It's too neat.

Of course, my speculation also swings wildly that Ruby is a double-agent angel and Sam is God's secret demon bunker-buster.

This show drives me crazy. But I love it. :-)


Consuela - Mar 13, 2009 3:14:19 pm PDT #1307 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Nice pre-series sexy story set in Key West: [link]

Dean/OFC, hot.


SailAweigh - Mar 13, 2009 3:34:32 pm PDT #1308 of 30002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

didn't have some sort of protective amulet, conjure bag, or was standing in a protective circle.

What was the window doing open and why wasn't there a salt line in front of it and the door?


Amy - Mar 13, 2009 3:46:49 pm PDT #1309 of 30002
Because books.

It doesn't make a lot of sense that Sam and Dean didn't lay salt lines to protect their own vulnerable bodies, if nothing (and no one) else.

I think the easiest reason to explain Pamela's death, though, meta as it may be, is to give both of them something (more) to feel guilty/angsty about. (As if they didn't already, what her being blind thanks to them, of course.)


Theresa - Mar 13, 2009 4:16:37 pm PDT #1310 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Castiel!Bobby called the boys about the job

Ah...I haven't rewatched, but I think you guys are right. I was wr-- wrrr- wro--, not right. Still, Poor Pamela.

It doesn't make a lot of sense that Sam and Dean didn't lay salt lines to protect their own vulnerable bodies, if nothing (and no one) else.

This.


Polter-Cow - Mar 13, 2009 4:20:47 pm PDT #1311 of 30002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

By the way, Matt's icon is very amusing, but if someone made a Sam icon that said something like "Sam Girl Who Is a Boy" or something equally contradictory...that would be cool? Remember, Sam can kill you with his brain.


brenda m - Mar 13, 2009 4:22:47 pm PDT #1312 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Leaving aside all the rest of it, it occurred to me this morning that there was more or less one thing in the world these two still trusted, and possibly their only concrete tie to the real world. And Castiel just fucked the hell out of that.