Right, there comes a point where you have to either move on, or just buy yourself a Klingon costume and go with it.

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Aug 21, 2010 4:56:33 pm PDT #13009 of 30002
Because books.

OMGJustReadThisAndThankMeLater

From certain people, I will absolutely do this, though. And from crack_impala, usually. It's actually my favorite thing, because it makes me read things I haven't.


Juliebird - Aug 21, 2010 5:07:20 pm PDT #13010 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

"that looks like one of your people." erm, yeah?

::pumps fist in air like a dork::

She's just written Winchester mafia D/C piece that's completely sans her brutal angst.

Ooh, I read that! I don't know that I agree with one of her comments that there should be more mafia AU's, but I definitely want more of this one.

And, really? If I want to read something hot? I am not going to read a whole long tome just for one half-assed smut scene.

I think the other side of this is that, for me, the hot smut (when well done) is hotter if surrounded by a build up and plot. I want the whole shebang. Sometimes I'm in the mood for PWP, but other times, the most demure unexplicit sex is way hotter when preceded by Story. For instance, "Freedom Hangs Like Heaven" by aesc. The most non-graphic and brief love scene EVER, but the chapters of emotion building up to that made it so powerful in a dam-breaking way.


Cass - Aug 21, 2010 5:09:07 pm PDT #13011 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Oh from the right recs list, I absolutely take the advice.

I just don't know how you can do that on a newsletter or initial publishing of a story or in a bigbang. Those are just listings.


Cass - Aug 21, 2010 5:11:58 pm PDT #13012 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I think the other side of this is that, for me, the hot smut (when well done) is hotter if surrounded by a build up and plot. I want the whole shebang. Sometimes I'm in the mood for PWP, but other times, the most demure unexplicit sex is way hotter when preceded by Story. For instance, "Freedom Hangs Like Heaven" by aesc. The most non-graphic and brief love scene EVER, but the chapters of emotion building up to that made it so powerful in a dam-breaking way.

Yes, but then I want the whole story to be good. And for the smut to make sense in the story. Not feel jammed in just so the author can say it's an NC-17 story.


Amy - Aug 21, 2010 5:14:07 pm PDT #13013 of 30002
Because books.

I just don't know how you can do that on a newsletter or initial publishing of a story or in a bigbang. Those are just listings.

You can't. And they're awesome to even do the newsletter in the first place. The one thing I wish for is an AU category, or a note next to the fic the way they do the pairings, but like I said, it's nice enough they collate it all in the first place.


Juliebird - Aug 21, 2010 5:14:21 pm PDT #13014 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Yes, but then I want the whole story to be good. And for the smut to make sense in the story. Not feel jammed in just so the author can say it's an NC-17 story.

Definitely this.


§ ita § - Aug 21, 2010 5:16:30 pm PDT #13015 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In the DCBB fics I've been bitching about, they pasted on the relationship, and not even any smut. So it's pandering of the not even sexily satisfying sort.

I'm a shipper, but I'm not insane. I don't need them to be together to enjoy the story--I need them to be well-written.

I don't know that I agree with one of her comments that there should be more mafia AU's, but I definitely want more of this one.

I was trying to think of which AU scenarios I do want more of, and I realised I don't really care. I'm pretty easily pleased by student AUs, and like the idea of well-written criminal AUs, but seriously? Just write it well, and they could be vet's assistants for all I care.


Juliebird - Aug 21, 2010 5:17:21 pm PDT #13016 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Now, I don't do newsletters, mostly because I didn't know about them, and for the most part am finding plenty of fic to explore on my own, between swingset and exploring authors that I'm finding I like pretty consistently. And poking through the genre tags on deancastiel. I tried playing in whatever the supernaturalfic community is on lj, but their tags suck balls. It's just authors, no genres, no pairings or focus characters. There's no way to avoid the wincest there.


Juliebird - Aug 21, 2010 5:20:33 pm PDT #13017 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

My squick about the basic premise of a mafia AU is the potential for irredeemable, unlikeable characters and motivations. I generally hate mafia stories and other crime family stories in mainstream media, unless it's the angst and drama of trying to get out of it. It's just not a nice world.


§ ita § - Aug 21, 2010 5:25:00 pm PDT #13018 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So far the two mafia stories I've enjoyed (and there is the one you mentioned I'm avoiding which breaks the rule) I am comfortable with seeing John as a criminal and Dean as the heir apparent who just doesn't want to play, but partakes tangentially of the mystery and the perks because for one reason or another he can't get out.

If it's a really well written story I can be sold to follow the criminals quasi-sympathetically (or if it has the crackish air of the soup kitchen story--knowing Sam was down with the lifestyle didn't bother me at all), but otherwise I'm willing to accept the fairy tale of organised crime where they gloss over the actual horrible side of it.