Jimmy's also mostly straight. So if he has his own body, he doesn't sleep with boys. He only wants to sleep with Dean because of Castiel possessing him (either currently or past and he just can't get over the experience), and why the hell not get some of something?

Even in an AU, this seems to be important to me.

Just like Castiel can be bi or gay, but Dean must be bi or I pout. I have no idea why I can't let that go.

AU's and AR's have Jimmy and Cas as human siblings lots and lots

Yes, this. Though I haven't stumbled upon much Novacest, but I would have skipped right over that in a kink meme without registering it. Only the nasty stuff or the stuff I like gets remembered.

Though I haven't stumbled upon much Novacest

I haven't at all, until now. I mean, I'd read the pairings as Dean/Cas/Jimmy, or Castiel/Jimmy and initially thought slashy threesome or masturbation, but those always meant "sharing the same body", and the latter were not actually having soul/grace sex inside Jimmy's body.

I don't get how you make Dean strictly gay. That's a lot of canon to ignore.

Finished "Fooling Yourself". It was good, had some nice Sam & Dean horsing around, interesting premise with promise for high stakes and danger, rushed through the resolution, and kinda ended abruptly. It almost felt like a downgraded big bang and the author knew they wouldn't make the deadline and said fuck it and slapped it up as a mini.

I mean, I liked it, and wanted to like it more, for there to be more (and no, I do not mean porn)(this one time). I hope it gets remixed or whatever the term is for taking another stab at it. By another author.

Link is also good: [link]

There are 51 unread posts in spoilers lite and 18 unread posts in spoilers. Barely back and already I am feeling the pull.

That's a lot of canon to ignore.

And I don't see that many AU authors have a point making him gay. Make Cas gay--whatever. There is no canon attraction. But you have a character that's expressed attraction to men and women. Run with it, peeps.

I'm about to start Fooling Yourself. I just finished Eternal, And Eternal I Endure, and it was dry. I liked some of the plot bunnies, but there was no emotion there. And pre-slash? Ha. No, that's not what I think it means.

Yeah, I don't know about Eternal, but the pre-slash in Foolish yourself was like, not "this is what is was like before they slashed", but more like "if I hadn't said pre-slash, you really wouldn't have guessed that there was potential for slash in the future".

I wonder if it's one of those things where the authors write "squint and you can see slash/pre-slash" just because they want to capture that audience that doesn't primarily prefer gen/het.

Gen and Het are now dating. Would that be a threesome?

There's more chemistry on screen than in Eternal. There's one moment where you think Cas might be referring to "feelings", but it's brushed away so fast. A single "Blow me, Cas" is much more charged than that, if you need to read into things.

Proper pre-slash is like the Zombie story, where it was apparent it was just a matter of time, and Sam basically knew what was going to happen and Dean was in denial/clueless mode. Otherwise it's just a friendship fic--which is fine! And allowable under the deancasbigbang rules. So don't lie to get readers. Because I might not have read it as soon if she hadn't said so, but I certainly wouldn't bitch if she hadn't.

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I think Foolish would have worked better as a gen story. Please explain to me the end, because 1) I don't know who says the last line, and 2) IDEK WTH I'm supposed to take away from that, emotionally or narratively. Except that the author's resume in the fandom is dark and bleak (she did the weird Oz one and the Hole in the World one)

So, you said "dry" so I skipped over and skimmed the western. Gross, but not as gross as I'd feared. Did not want.

Okay, if peeps are gonna do westerns, lets take a nice slashy one and do the Crowe/Bale 3:10 to Yuma (which this one had a flash of near the end).