Other moms should totally weigh in if they want to, but I know I apologize for things that aren't really my fault because I do hurt, to some extent, when my kids do. It's like saying, "I'm sorry you threw up, honey," except a hundredfold, because you left him mom-less.

Also, that was simply *my* reading the first time I saw it, and not necessarily what Kripke had in mind. But it didn't gnaw at me, you know?

I just apologized for something that was not at all my fault because I was sorry it happened.

I'll be Pollyanna and say that when they wrote Mary saying sorry, they knew what they were laying the groundwork for. Because, even if the payoff wasn't for a long long while, our inability to come up with another reasonable explanation lends itself to supporting the explanation we were finally given. --I don't know if that sentence reads sensically or grammatically. I'm le tired.

I think I'd like to see Mary as still the hunter --wait, no, I'd like to see both versions, just to compare. Why do I have to choose?! But my intitial reaction is to see her with her canon history and her vow to never raise her children as hunters, and how that clashes with her desire for revenge and her need to prepare her sons to be able to protect themselves. Extra angst there.

Of course, it'd also be interesting to see her transformation from civilian to, if not full-fledged hunter, but fierce lion mama who learns how to get her and her family ready to lay down a good defensive position before eventually moving into the offensive (after being attacked one too many times).

Nick's wife? Fridged.

Hmm. I wouldn't have though to call her fridged, because she was never really a presence when she wasn't a dream meatsuit. I guess she was, but Nick didn't fare much better, because he was only introduced to provide a meatsuit for Lucifer.

It's true, but they just killed Nick's family in order for him to step aside and bend over for Lucy. So it's not in service of a major character, but it was one of the female deaths that prompted male anguish and action that came to mind.

Madison? Casualty, not fridged. Still trying to think of others.

I guess my takeaway from the Home scene was always that Mary was accepting blame for something, and until now I never considered that she was expressing sadness. Which makes total sense, except I like my way better.

So then you'd count Bobby's wife as being fridged too?

We found out about her so late, that I don't consider her much. In retrospect, she was the death that made him a hunter, but eh. It made him sad, but it all seemed proportional, if that makes any sense.

Maybe she was fridged the second time. How's that for an honour? Nah, it didn't take.

I think if we'd been introduced to widower hunter Bobby, then I'd call her fridged without hesitation.

Gordon's sister? Fridged.

If fridging included kids, I'd say it was true of Tamara and Isaac's daughter, too.

Pretty much every hunter we've been told the history of has a fridged relative, right?

I think we've only every heard the ones mentioned here -- I don't remember any kind of origin story for Caleb or Pastor Jim or the guys who beat up on Sam in Free To Be. It seems sort of assumed, though.