A year and a half ago, I could have eviscerated him with my thoughts. Now I can barely hurt his feelings. Things used to be so much simpler.

Anya ,'Dirty Girls'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2010 7:12:58 am PDT #12269 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Someone wrote a Wincest big bang where the boys turn into Care Bears. Rule 34 surely applies.


P.M. Marc - Jul 27, 2010 7:22:33 am PDT #12270 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Hands measures to the horse's back, right? Where you'd put the saddle, in other words? Or thereabouts?

Top of shoulders/base of neck. To the withers.


DebetEsse - Jul 27, 2010 7:28:23 am PDT #12271 of 30002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

wrt spoilers.

What ita said makes sense to me. There's a difference between characters that one could reasonably assume will return (e.g. Bobby. Nothing's kept him away so far. Assuming that they go back to hunting, Bobby's presence is a good bet), and those that that in itself would be surprising (Say...Jo would be in that category), and, to blur matters further, we could debate which category Castiel would go in, depending on the degree of emphasis you want to put on meta issues (fan service, for example).

I'm okay with the CW website stuff to be posted in whitefont, as someone who doesn't watch it. However, discussion in blackfont would keep me out of the thread.


Amy - Jul 27, 2010 7:33:24 am PDT #12272 of 30002
Because books.

Rule 34 surely applies.

Rule 34?

My other crack fic idea this morning was based on Inception -- they need to plant an idea in Dean's head, and Sam decides it would be funny to base the dream on Rocky Horror.

I need more to do.


Typo Boy - Jul 27, 2010 7:36:35 am PDT #12273 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

On the other hand, as someone completely unspoiled I can speculate on Bobby. Do we know for sure the lien on his soul is gone? Cause if the lien is still there, solving that little problem would make an awesome subplot. Also in general I think Supernatural does better when something a lot smaller than the fate of the world is at stake. One of shows strengths is that it makes us care about the characters enough that their being in jeopardy is enough to hold our interest.


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2010 7:36:37 am PDT #12274 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

we could debate which category Castiel would go in

We don't need to debate that, since Misha is a series regular for season 6, and that's not a spoiler by thread rules.

Rule 34


Marcia - Jul 27, 2010 1:25:04 pm PDT #12275 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

(No spoilers) Kripke was asked at Comic-Con 2010 about the Ruby line in Lucifer Rising ("You didn't need the feather to fly, Dumbo"), and if Sam didn't need the demon blood to do what he did. Kripke responded that the demon blood is like a battery, and it gives Sam that boost to do the things he does. What he was referencing had to do with the decisions Sam made, that even though Ruby was pushing him towards darkness, and he was blaming her, she said he didn't need her to do what he'd done. He's self-righteous and angry and would have come to his decisions on his own.


Morgana - Jul 27, 2010 2:35:28 pm PDT #12276 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Misha is a series regular for season 6

I fear an overuse of Castiel, much like Spike was overused. He's an intriguing character but he will lose impact if he's shoehorned into scenes just for the sake of fanservice.

if Sam didn't need the demon blood to do what he did

One of the issues that has bugged me has been the treatment of Sam's behavior as an "addiction." His powers/abilities, whatever, I thought were supposed to have been instilled in him by Azazel when he was a baby. Perhaps they didn't come online until his mid-twenties, but they are an inherent part of who he is, just like his liver or his eye color or his skin tone. They aren't a habit like biting his nails or smoking that he picked up that can be kicked through a 12-step program; they're part and parcel of who he is. Acting as though he could just ignore them if he tried hard enough seems like an overly simplistic way to view it. I don't think the writers set it up or carried it through correctly, because Dean may have viewed it as an addiction, but it wasn't. Sam was led to rely on Ruby through a combination of factors but the powers are his (and if logic follows, they still are).


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2010 3:06:23 pm PDT #12277 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I doubt they'll use Castiel much more than they used him last season. I don't fear overuse, I fear shoehorning, which is kinda different. Spike was all over everything. Castiel *could* have been around more--they just remembered him every so often and tossed him in but only well half the time.


-t - Jul 27, 2010 3:15:09 pm PDT #12278 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Acting as though he could just ignore them if he tried hard enough seems like an overly simplistic way to view it.

Er. That is also an overly simplistic way to view addiction in general.

That said, I can't say the demon blood addiction as written was particularly convincing and Kripke's explanation of the Dumbo line doesn't make much sense to me.