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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Amy - Jul 19, 2010 5:12:03 pm PDT #11999 of 30002
Because books.

JDM and Craig Ferguson are adorable together. Also adorkable.


Juliebird - Jul 19, 2010 5:21:54 pm PDT #12000 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

But s'pose they don't hug, Julie. Would it still be worth the torture?

ita, I suppose only time will tell. I mean, in my head, in the interim there are lots of phantom meetings and dreams and nightmares of what-could-be. I just think that they have to up the duration of separation at this point. We survived two eps. This time, after everything, if not three full ones, then at least two and a half. I guess I'm thinking that, after following up on something so big, to enter into something more intimate, the angst and wallowing needs to be a bit More. But, Yes (worth the torture, they've always been kinda gentle with the separation, imho).

In my scenario, idk. I'm thinking of Cas as kind of a link between them two. Neither fully with one or the other, but prodding and pushing until they get to that point. Because even if there's no epic mission, they're Cas' friends, and he wants them to be whole, so he's acting as an instrument of fate on their behalves, leading them towards each other while one holds back and the other flounders.


Marcia - Jul 19, 2010 6:22:58 pm PDT #12001 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

I like this a lot, Julie.


§ ita § - Jul 19, 2010 6:43:15 pm PDT #12002 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And here starts the part (starts! bah!) where I over invest in scenarios.

Dream scenes could help alleviate my personal anguish, plus amp up the character angst. I've fallen prey to the fic scenarios that have Cas come and get Dean and tell him that Sam is somehow out there and they must find him, and it works that way. And Sam's being an evasive creeper, maybe wandering off after he's (erroneously) assured himself Dean is better off.

But does Cas want Dean to find Sam because he cares? Or he knows Dean cares? Or because Sam needs to be found for other reasons?

And then when Sam is found, what happens? In the fics, Dean never intends to come back to Lisa once he leaves to find Sam--that's his "Sorry-I tried" departure of her and Ben.

Then, there's the flip side that Dean gets driven out of Lisa's for some reason--NSM that they don't work, but maybe because the hunting lifestyle can't leave him behind, and he puts them in jeopardy.

I'd hate if the love of a good woman heals all his wounds, for the record.


Juliebird - Jul 19, 2010 11:00:48 pm PDT #12003 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I don't think Sam and Lisa & Ben have to be mutually exclusive, and in that scenario, once Dean finds Sam, he can stay in Lisa's orbit because he likes her. Maybe she becomes one of their homebases until it gets too dangerous.

I don't know if I want it to be that Cas has a necessary mission for Dean to find Sam, because I want the show to move past how special either of them are. I think.


Juliebird - Jul 19, 2010 11:25:52 pm PDT #12004 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I just realized, ita: you think there's a possibility that there won't be hugs? BUT DEAN WUVS HUGZ!

I can't speculate too much further, because I read the title for the season premiere and it gave me ideas.


§ ita § - Jul 20, 2010 1:40:09 am PDT #12005 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does Sam come back to Lisa's? For some reason hunting from there/having Lucifer's vessel there seems even more unsafe than the idea of moving in a PTSD alcoholic near-stranger hated by heaven and hell with your ten year old son.

Gratitude's a given, but I don't get that bit. I would be making Dean do a lot of proving himself before he started sleeping under the same roof as my offspring.


Juliebird - Jul 20, 2010 2:20:11 am PDT #12006 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Yeah, stoopid idea.

. . . Doesn't mean they won't try it.


Amy - Jul 20, 2010 6:26:02 am PDT #12007 of 30002
Because books.

I keep being tempted by spoilers and pulling back at the last moment. I'm not sure how much I even want to speculate, because then I get irked when the show doesn't do what I want.

What I love about this coming season is how much room for speculation there is. It's never been this open-ended -- there are just so many possibilities for how and why they would keep them apart for a while, and how they would reunite them, not to mention what exactly they're going to be doing this season, and what Sam is.

Stupid trivia: Long-Distance Call is on, and I realized Sam and Dean introduce themselves to the phone company guy as Agents Campbell and Raimi, as in Bruce Campbell and Sam Raimi. Aw.


§ ita § - Jul 20, 2010 6:28:20 am PDT #12008 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sam and Dean introduce themselves to the phone company guy as Agents Campbell and Raimi, as in Bruce Campbell and Sam Raimi. Aw.

Given Ted Raimi was in an episode, that's ultra twisty.

As far as what I want, I'm open on a lot of stuff. Except the healing virtues of Lisa's crotch. I figure I have to suck it up she's letting such a dangerous man around her kid, but if she heals him, I'll be pissed. If either of them die, I'll be even more pissed.