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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Jul 14, 2010 11:44:26 am PDT #11837 of 30002
Because books.

I can't make either one of them strictly gay because ... they're not. I don't know if it's the writer in me working with the source material or what, but they're clearly both into women on the show, so.

I guess AU is different, but we know how I feel about those, so.


Juliebird - Jul 14, 2010 11:45:26 am PDT #11838 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Just finished a House cross-over, kinda hurty because it contains elements of pre-endverse, but I liked it [link]


Juliebird - Jul 14, 2010 11:49:02 am PDT #11839 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I've also discovered that I don't gravitate toward short fics. I want long fics. Not necessarily epic, but multi-chaptered that I can get lost in. If it's good, but only 400 words long, it doesn't last. I'll just want more. There's a lot on swing-set that I haven't read just because it's short.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2010 11:52:18 am PDT #11840 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

And Dean? Was in love with Cassie. Now, sure, he might love Cas more or better or whatever, but he thought he was in love with Cassie. I hate fics that ignore he ever thought he'd made a connection to another person.

No, they weren't friends or comrades, but that doesn't mean it wasn't valid.

When AUs make them gay, I think it's too much change, unless the point of the story is that they're gay, and it's what the alternative is hinging on.

Cas can be gay in AUs, though. That's just fine.

kinda hurty

Dude, it's haruslex. She's mean.

eta:

There's a lot on swing-set that I haven't read just because it's short.

Ha! Me too. I think it's because she presented the word count, because usually I don't care. But for AU, I want worldbuilding, and to get really lost.


P.M. Marc - Jul 14, 2010 11:53:39 am PDT #11841 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Mapping their characters onto girls, if they had grown up that way, is an interesting exercise for me, because (as I think Plei pointed out to me) a lot of things other than the obvious might have changed if Dean had been a girl, for instance.

Heh! And you answered for me! I tried (outside the Scooby Doo crossover femslash one) to write always-a-girl AU Dean for Anne once, and it just was so freaking bleak that it kept sending me fetal.

Like, bleaker than I can physically do flavor of bleak. I'm feeling a little oogy in the pit of my gut just thinking about it.


Juliebird - Jul 14, 2010 11:54:47 am PDT #11842 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

She really is. It's either pain or crack, I haven't found an in-between yet on her journal.

In trying to overcome my disdain of short fics, I offer you [link] "An Angel to Drive Over Me". Dean/Cas role reversals amuse me.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2010 11:55:01 am PDT #11843 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

C'mon, Plei, give us an outline.

I realise I need to check the authors doing the D/C big bang and see who I'm excited about.


ehab - Jul 14, 2010 11:56:55 am PDT #11844 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

I have to ammend my earlier statement about genderswap. I've read a few that worked where Dean or Sam (usually Dean) were hexed or whatever and wake up as a woman. As a temporary window into the hilarious adjustment of being a woman I have been entertained.

I'm afraid, ita, they were wincest.

Similarly capable of entertaining me is temporary age regression.


Juliebird - Jul 14, 2010 11:58:01 am PDT #11845 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Architeuthis better pony up, boyo. The way he explores Dean's issues and the gay-panic and Castiel still being Castiel, all alien and Not Broken . . . I haven't yet found anyone to rival him.


P.M. Marc - Jul 14, 2010 12:00:26 pm PDT #11846 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

C'mon, Plei, give us an outline.

It was really just a series of snapshots going up till she goes to Palo Alto to get Sam. But there were all sorts of areas where my brain kept going, "imagine all the worst case scenarios applicable to Dean as a boy, now expand that to the XX set, now go whimper."