I really, really thought that the incantation that mentioned Castiel was in Bad Day at Black Rock - so we rewatched that . . . but there's no incantation in BDaBR. It's in Red Skies at Night. We watched the tuxedo scene and the incantaion and yes, indeed - Castiel is invoked.

Has anyone seen that transcribed? And you know, translated?

(We rewatched the pilot last night: yes, they are so damn young. Also, I cannot be mad at John for raising those boys the way that he did given the situation.)

I did wonder which subset of fandom was going to get offended every time Fury gave an interview, though.

Did people ever wonder how Fury could write for a story that they loved? Because this is me with Kripke. Listen to me being all judgmental about someone I don't know. IJS, I have a really strong impression that Kripke and I would vote each other off the island. It would be mutual and happen even before the elimination.

IOSupernaturalN, I was able to watch through "Bugs" last night and thoroughly enjoyed the look of revelation on Sam's face as the idea took hold that maybe John wasn't as bad as he thought.

Wow, I guess Angle [sic] really IS a hottie now!

Angle is acute!

I feel the same way about Kripke, Austin. But then I have to remember that, even though it's gone through much evolution, the original idea and a lot of the atmospheric stuff was Kripke's to begin with.

watch through "Bugs" last night and thoroughly enjoyed the look of revelation on Sam's face

I know! It's so revelatory to rewatch earlier seasons in light of all we now know. I honestly believe the through line of the story is Kripke's, that he's always known where we're going, unlike some other shows' producers, and I have to give him credit for that. He just needs some adjustment on his social issues. Or somebody to stand handy with the big stick of "No!"

He was acutie, but there were times, you have to admit, when he was really obtuse.

he's always known where we're going, unlike some other shows' producers

Now, here, I have to give credit with you. Was it livejournal, I disremember, but someone was saying at Chicago Con Jensen reported Kripke's reaction to this season's ratings? Kripke had accepted this was the last season so the writers were throwing everything at the audience. Then the premiere ratings came in and he hung his head and sighed, "Crap!" I do think he has had a plan, maybe high level, but a plan, all along.

Kripke's comments never ping much more than an eyeroll from me. I often wanted to beat Joss with a shovel. Possibly because Kripke comes off as more speaking without thinking, and Joss as a smug SNAG type of a dickwad.

What's SNAG? I have to keep acronym-current, you understand.

What's SNAG? I have to keep acronym-current, you understand.

Sensitive New Age Guy. The kind who will brew you tea to help with your menses. And who will use that word. And who will expect accolade upon accolade (and possible fellatio, though he'd never ask you, he'd just hint) for the simple act of brewing the tea.

What Juliana said!