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'Objects In Space'


Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Dec 31, 2008 12:03:26 pm PST #8851 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Ew. My office is one block from the parade route. Whole families are camped out on the street.

People pee on those corners, yo!


Hil R. - Dec 31, 2008 12:06:01 pm PST #8852 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

OK, I just figured out why Denis Prager's name sounded familiar. He's written a few books on Judaism, and gets his name in the Jewish press fairly regularly with ridiculous statements. Which both puts his remarks in better context for me, and makes them absurd -- within Jewish law, sex is an obligation on the husband, not the wife.


tommyrot - Dec 31, 2008 12:15:49 pm PST #8853 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

within Jewish law, sex is an obligation on the husband, not the wife.

Yeah, has he not seen Yentl?


Sheryl - Dec 31, 2008 12:25:41 pm PST #8854 of 10002
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

I'm really glad I didn't click on that link and read the Prager column.

Anyhow.... we're meeting friends for dinner then probably going to a gaming party. (If it weren't so cold and windy we would have done First Night somewhere)


Hil R. - Dec 31, 2008 12:25:54 pm PST #8855 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I think I've just found one of the most illogical statements I've ever encountered. From the Satmar Rebbe (head of an anti-Zionist Chasidic sect):

While the British government still controlled the Holy Land, the Zionists, who the British saw were seeking to establish their state, were the direct reason why they chose to close their doors to prevent a large influx of Jews. Anyone who remembers who these events unfolded knows for a fact that were it not for the Zionists with their heretical ideas of establishing a state, the doors of the Holy Land itself would have remained open to Jewish refugees, and many Jews would have been saved. During Islamic (Turkish) rule in the Holy Land, the reason that the gates of the Land were closed because of the Turks feared Zionist immigration.

The Zionists were bringing in a lot of Jews. The British, fearing a large influx of Jews, limited Jewish immigration. Thus, Jewish refugees couldn't go to Palestine. So if the Zionists hadn't brought in a lot of Jews, then the British wouldn't have limited Jewish immigration, and so a lot of Jewish refugees would have been able to come, which brings us right back to the beginning, since we just said that "lots of Jews" leads to "British restrict immigration" which leads to "not so many Jews."

(Not really relevant to anything. Just found that statement while searching for something else, and had to share the circularity.)


Barb - Dec 31, 2008 12:41:59 pm PST #8856 of 10002
“Not dead yet!”

So, it would appear I have a slight change of plans for tonight. Kids still have sleepover. We're still going to watch movies at home. But instead of bringing Italian in, we're going to one of the neighborhood bistros that we've been planning on going to, well, pretty much forever.

It all started with Lewis suggesting that we get into slightly nicer clothes and set the table for dinner, because he knows I value things like that on occasion. Which led to my suggesting, well, if we get dressed and we have to drop the kids off anyway, why not just go out for a meal and let someone else cope with clean up?

Plus, bonus! I get to wear new shoes! Because I'm shallow like that.

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Laura - Dec 31, 2008 12:45:32 pm PST #8857 of 10002
Our wings are not tired.

Those shoes, hella sweet way to start the year.


shrift - Dec 31, 2008 12:50:38 pm PST #8858 of 10002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Those are some fabulous shoes, Barb.


Hil R. - Dec 31, 2008 1:01:46 pm PST #8859 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Oooh, nice shoes.

Wow. The wind out there is howling. Kind of creepy.


Atropa - Dec 31, 2008 1:38:47 pm PST #8860 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Daaaang, those are some nice shoes, Barb. I envy your ability to wear heels.

I have new boots! That were on sale for a ridiculous amount off! [link]