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Fred ,'Life of the Party'


Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


SailAweigh - Dec 30, 2008 8:18:12 am PST #8545 of 10002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Is it just that men are lame?

I think it's that the majority of men without college degrees can earn more money than a woman without. College is not as much an imperative in the fiscal stakes for them.


Gudanov - Dec 30, 2008 8:21:16 am PST #8546 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

Is it just that men are lame?

Here is my totally uninformed take. I think there are more good "male" job paths without a college degree than there are "female" job paths. Also, I think there is less pressure against academic achievement for girls than boys.


tommyrot - Dec 30, 2008 8:21:54 am PST #8547 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

From The Onion:

Computer Being Stupid

CAMBRIDGE, MA—After multiple attempts to get the thing to do the thing, 38-year-old freelance writer Joe Garvin gave up Saturday, citing the fact that his stupid computer was too dumb to print something as simple as a travel itinerary. The computer, a PowerBook something with some kind of core that does this every single time, reportedly refused to just tell the printer to print even after Garvin spent a full 10 minutes yelling at it. "Why won't you just help me out here?" Garvin asked his computer after it started beeping at him just to rub it in. "I checked your nums lock already, and that's not it. What is the matter with you? I hate you." Although the computer will likely go on being retarded forever, Garvin refused to call tech support to resolve the problem, claiming they're all "Wha, wha, wha," and saying a bunch of stuff he doesn't even know what.


tommyrot - Dec 30, 2008 8:25:45 am PST #8548 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think it's that the majority of men without college degrees can earn more money than a woman without.

I'm not sure that explains it all. Don't African American women earn more on average than African American men, due to to African American women being more likely to have gone to college and hold professional jobs?

Maybe I'm disremembering my stats....


Calli - Dec 30, 2008 8:28:56 am PST #8549 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I think that Iceland has a significant fishing industry, which skews male in employees and doesn't require a college degree. That might factor in.


tommyrot - Dec 30, 2008 8:30:17 am PST #8550 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh, that makes sense.

If I lived in Iceland, I'd probably be considered one of those wusses who are too wussy to fish.


Strega - Dec 30, 2008 8:31:30 am PST #8551 of 10002

In Reykjavik the bars can stay open all night and Warren Ellis is a gets-recognized-on-the-street celebrity.

These things may be related.


msbelle - Dec 30, 2008 8:36:15 am PST #8552 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

If I had to do it all over again I think I would have spent my highschool and early college summers learning plumbing or air conditioning repair. Women are vastly under-represented in those kinds of fields, the work is in demand and if you do good work, you are in high demand. Furthermore, you can move anywhere in the country and not need a new skill set.

did my non-sequitor kill the thread?


Calli - Dec 30, 2008 9:14:04 am PST #8553 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

If I had to do it all over again I think I would have spent my highschool and early college summers learning plumbing or air conditioning repair.

I've been tempted to go to my local community college, which has programs in electronics, including AC repair.


sumi - Dec 30, 2008 9:21:17 am PST #8554 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

NPR story on overseas puppymills that ship dogs to the US. And a New Yorker profile on the woman who blew the whistle on Blago.

And in about 40 minutes - there is supposed to be a press conference where Blago announces his choice to take over Obama's senate seat.