Cordelia: You're him. You're Angel's son. Connor: It's not like I got to choose.

'Hell Bound'


Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kathy A - Dec 30, 2008 6:25:36 am PST #8527 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

heavily bible-based, with a very strong emphasis on studying the nuances of the original languages the books were written in, as well as the historical/social/cultural context, and yet *rigidly* literal in their interpretation

Bart Ehrman, the author of Misquoting Jesus, says in his introduction to that book that he was a literal interpreter of the Bible until he started studying it, whereupon he became more convinced that, since no one really knows what the original writers of the Bible truly wrote (the earliest written manuscript remaining at this point dates to the 4th century), you can't really interpret it literally.


Shir - Dec 30, 2008 6:41:28 am PST #8528 of 10002
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Update: rumors about potential cease fire for 48 hours!

(Full deny on both sides, but it's getting headlines. Please, please, please, please let it be true and lasting).


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2008 6:42:42 am PST #8529 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Bart Ehrman, the author of Misquoting Jesus, says in his introduction to that book that he was a literal interpreter of the Bible until he started studying it, whereupon he became more convinced that, since no one really knows what the original writers of the Bible truly wrote (the earliest written manuscript remaining at this point dates to the 4th century), you can't really interpret it literally.

That's been my conclusion, as well. The FAC's fatal flaw (regarding my membership) was to educate me too well.

Also? Even if one believes the bible was divinely inspired, God the celestial being did not actually take pen/quill/stylus in his/her/its divine hand and write the bible.

WRITTEN BY HUMANS. Who are, you know, WAY flawed. And most (all?) were male, so they have a certain....bias.

TRANSLATED BY HUMANS. Who are [blah blah see above].

There's some good stuff in it. One of the things the FAC teaches about bible interpretation is that you don't camp out on *one* passage, or *one* concept that's never repeated again; instead you look at the whole shebang, and at what concept/message is repeated over and over and over and over. Which is, basically: God loves all of us.

And *that,* I can get behind as "what the bible says."


Gudanov - Dec 30, 2008 6:42:45 am PST #8530 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

Update: rumors about potential cease fire for 48 hours!

I hope it's true.


DavidS - Dec 30, 2008 6:55:04 am PST #8531 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hilarious & Crazy Signage, Part 12

I like the "double dog dare ya" by the power dynamos.


Jessica - Dec 30, 2008 6:55:08 am PST #8532 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

rumors about potential cease fire for 48 hours!

Oh, yes please.


Connie Neil - Dec 30, 2008 7:06:49 am PST #8533 of 10002
brillig

One of the things the FAC teaches about bible interpretation is that you don't camp out on *one* passage, or *one* concept that's never repeated again; instead you look at the whole shebang, and at what concept/message is repeated over and over and over and over

That's surprisingly enlightened for a FAC. Especially the studying in the original language.

I have most of Bart Ehrman's books, but I haven't read his book on the recently discovered Gospel of Judas (a Gnostic scripture which puts an interesting spin on the whole Judas thing).


Dana - Dec 30, 2008 7:10:32 am PST #8534 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Ex-aides say Bush never recovered from Katrina

Yeah, I saw that last night. My reaction has not changed since then, which is "BOO FUCKING HOO."


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2008 7:20:41 am PST #8535 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

One of the things the FAC teaches about bible interpretation is that you don't camp out on *one* passage, or *one* concept that's never repeated again; instead you look at the whole shebang, and at what concept/message is repeated over and over and over and over

That's surprisingly enlightened for a FAC. Especially the studying in the original language.

It still took them to a creepy culty Army Of The LORD place, though.


sumi - Dec 30, 2008 7:28:30 am PST #8536 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

What Dana said.

I'm in vacationland for sure now: went to bed after 4:30 and got up 11ish. (Really only 7 hours of sleep. . . that's normal, right?)