Also, a sermon I heard this Christmas made me think about the whole thing about Mary and Joseph not being married, and I wonder about the history of that -- it seems like crap to me, since if they weren't married, wouldn't she go with her father to the census, not her fiance? I don't know, of course....
Now, this would be the perfect time for a swear word.
Kaylee ,'Jaynestown'
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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Jesse - Dec 29, 2008 4:41:03 pm PST #8438 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Laura - Dec 29, 2008 4:43:28 pm PST #8439 of 10002
Our wings are not tired.
The virgin birth was so much a part of my Catholic upbringing that I don't remember it being explained. I don't remember anyone in Catholic elementary school asking about it.
My first date with DH#1 was a Chuck Mangione concert. 1972.
Yay trees! I planted a number of Gumbo Limbo trees about 20 some years ago along a main street here. They were scrawny little branches from a large tree. They are big lovely shade trees now. I loves seeing them grow.
tommyrot - Dec 29, 2008 4:43:36 pm PST #8440 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
You mean, what exactly it means to be a virgin? I don't think we ever got into that in my religious education. You always hear the words, and I guess at some point you know what they mean.
Yeah, I don't remember when they explained it to us. Maybe it was in 8th grade when we had "sex ed" in my Christian school.
I do remember hearing about unwed mothers on tv news when I was in second grade or so - I was thinking, "Is this the same as the virgin Mary giving birth?" (But I didn't ask my parents that question.)
Strix - Dec 29, 2008 4:44:20 pm PST #8441 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Ooh, and oh yeah, Esther! Esther FASCINATED me for about 2 months when I was about 9. Esther was freaking hot in my illustrated Child's Bible, and I wanted all her cool clothes and jewelry.
And hur, the chick that...Judith! cut of Whazzit's head with a sword. V. popular subject for Rennaissance paintings.
Strangely enough, I remember all the women of the Bible. But Ruth did nothing for me. I am selfish.
tommyrot - Dec 29, 2008 4:45:52 pm PST #8442 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
cut of Whazzit's head with a sword.
John the Baptist? Let's see - I think Harod's wife just asked for his head, so they gave it to her. Is this something other than what you're thinking of?
Strix - Dec 29, 2008 4:46:12 pm PST #8443 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Holofernes. I can't belive I remembered that without Googling and I am really proud. Judith chopped off Holofernes' head.
Strix - Dec 29, 2008 4:48:05 pm PST #8444 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Didn't Salome dance for JtB's head? Was Salome Herod's wife?
tommyrot - Dec 29, 2008 4:48:35 pm PST #8445 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Holofernes.
I had to google. I'm certain they never taught us this story.
Hil R. - Dec 29, 2008 4:48:54 pm PST #8446 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
And hur, the chick that...Judith! cut of Whazzit's head with a sword. V. popular subject for Rennaissance paintings.
Hee. I always liked that story, since my Hebrew name is the Hebrew form of Judith. There's also a very similar story, in the Book of Deborah, of Yael driving a stake through Barak's head.
Strix - Dec 29, 2008 4:49:43 pm PST #8447 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
HAH! YES! SALOME!
I can't believe I am this jazzed about correctly remembering gory Biblical details!
Gramma, you made me sit through church and it was USEFUL!