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Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kathy A - Dec 24, 2008 6:20:49 am PST #7761 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I've kept one ep of Dirty Jobs on my DVR, the one with the snake researcher catching Lake Erie watersnakes, which includes Mike lobstering in Maine with the two young men and also raking seaweed out of Lake Erie. That one just might be my favorite ep of the show as a whole, but my favorite job remains the ostrich farm.


Steph L. - Dec 24, 2008 6:23:33 am PST #7762 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Hem the pants of Emmett's new/used eBay tux

Why does Emmett need a tux?

Willow's line about having to go to Xander's house to watch Charlie Brown Christmas never made sense to me -- most of the Jewish kids I knew were allowed to watch that one. The ones that got more scrutiny were the ones about Santa and presents and reindeer and stuff like that.

I heard the author on (I think) Talk of the Nation yesterday, and I found it really interesting that A Charlie Brown Christmas was almost universally approved for Jewish kids, given that it's the most undistilled, straight-from-the-New-Testament Jesus-y theme of all the kids' Christmas shows.


Cashmere - Dec 24, 2008 6:25:07 am PST #7763 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Is it just me or should Malla be wearing a full body hair net to be cooking?


Trudy Booth - Dec 24, 2008 6:28:09 am PST #7764 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I heard the author on (I think) Talk of the Nation yesterday, and I found it really interesting that A Charlie Brown Christmas was almost universally approved for Jewish kids, given that it's the most undistilled, straight-from-the-New-Testament Jesus-y theme of all the kids' Christmas shows.

Yes!


Hil R. - Dec 24, 2008 6:28:10 am PST #7765 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I heard the author on (I think) Talk of the Nation yesterday, and I found it really interesting that A Charlie Brown Christmas was almost universally approved for Jewish kids, given that it's the most undistilled, straight-from-the-New-Testament Jesus-y theme of all the kids' Christmas shows.

I think that that's what makes it approved, really. None of the stuff about "all the children" waiting for Santa, or anything like that. Christmas as a Christian holiday sits much more comfortably than Christmas as a secular holiday.

(And also, until high school or so, Charlie Brown Christmas and the Animaniacs Christmas Special were pretty much the only things I knew about the Nativity. And together, it gave me a relatively decent understanding. I didn't actually read the New Testament until a few years ago, when I was in Rome and getting very confused in art museums and figured I ought to find out what some of the paintings were about -- I understood the nativity and crucifixion ones, and a few of the others, but a whole lot that were just labeled with somebody's name, I had no idea who that person was, and there were all kinds of symbols that I just couldn't interpret.)


tommyrot - Dec 24, 2008 6:30:21 am PST #7766 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

OK, how about the "Ferengi = space Jews" connection?


Hil R. - Dec 24, 2008 6:30:27 am PST #7767 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Trudy Booth - Dec 24, 2008 6:35:07 am PST #7768 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Don't most cultures have an "other" who are cheap?

I know the Scottish are supposed to be cheap. And the Dutch.


Allyson - Dec 24, 2008 6:35:40 am PST #7769 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I just remembered that when I was growing up, I had a friend whose parents were devout Catholics and were thrilled to send her off to our house for Passover seder. It was all about learning old testament stuff, I realize now.

But her father was really pleased as punch that there was a Jewish family in the neighborhood, even as Jew-lite as we were.

It still seems a little odd to me.


Barb - Dec 24, 2008 6:42:05 am PST #7770 of 10002
“Not dead yet!”

My in-laws have delved more into religion as they've gotten older. I mean, they used to have a Christmas tree back when their kids were young (with visits from Hanukkah Hank), and Lewis was the only one of his siblings who had a bar/bat mitzvah and he's as secular as they get, overall. We often joke how funny it is that the nice, lapsed Catholic girl he married spent a semester of school in Israel while the nice lapsed Jewish boy I married has visited the Vatican.

Since we live in the same city as Lewis' parents, our kids get exposure to their Jewish side that way, with lighting the menorah and Friday night dinners and Seder while overall, we approach the Christian holidays from a secular bent. I suppose one of these days I'll take them to a Midnight Mass if they express any interest. I just want them to be good kids and be tolerant of everyone around them, more than adhere to any one particular religious ideology.