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Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Dec 19, 2008 3:25:09 pm PST #7156 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

There's a chart of the major losses to Jewish groups here: [link] I'm not sure how many non-Jewish groups were invested with him -- I haven't heard very many reports mentioning non-Jewish groups.


SailAweigh - Dec 19, 2008 3:25:35 pm PST #7157 of 10002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Anthony Hopkins: [link]

Benecio del Toro: [link]

Anne Bancroft: [link]

James Coburn: [link]


Hil R. - Dec 19, 2008 3:28:56 pm PST #7158 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yeah, see this is why I really don't buy the "ShopRite hates our baybeeeeez!" argument. Drop the neo-Nazi middle names and the swastikas and I'm sure they'd be perfectly happy to make you a "Happy Birthday Joycelynn" or even a "Happy Birthday Adolf" cake.

Yeah, ShopRite offered to sell them a "Happy Birthday" cake and leave a space for them to write in the name, but they said no.


Jesse - Dec 19, 2008 3:32:34 pm PST #7159 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm not sure how many non-Jewish groups were invested with him -- I haven't heard very many reports mentioning non-Jewish groups.

Well, this foundation isn't Jewish, and the one I just heard about isn't, either -- although the donor is, and was friends with the Madoffs.

Actually the organization I work for was apparently named in some article, since they (Bernie and Ruth) have given us as much as $25K in past years.


Hil R. - Dec 19, 2008 3:39:03 pm PST #7160 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Well, this foundation isn't Jewish, and the one I just heard about isn't, either -- although the donor is, and was friends with the Madoffs.

Ah. Yeah, I'd heard about JEHT. (It sometimes gets lumped in with "Jewish groups" in these articles, since the founder is Jewish.)

A whole lot of the people who had money invested with him were his friends. Something like 1/3 of the members of his country club had money in his fund. There have been some questions of conflict of interest with Yeshiva University, since he was a member of the board that decided how the endowment should be invested, and the decision was to invest a bunch of it in his fund.


msbelle - Dec 19, 2008 3:39:18 pm PST #7161 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Mac and I have watched santa claus is coming to town, the grinchn and now we are starting frosty. I have no internet, only blackberry and tech support couldn't help, so I have to try and get home tomorrow to wait for a technician. Now I have to figure out how to reach the facebook friend to cancel our plans.


Jesse - Dec 19, 2008 3:40:53 pm PST #7162 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

(It sometimes gets lumped in with "Jewish groups" in these articles, since the founder is Jewish.)

I imagine the same thing will happen with my as-yet-unnamed foundation. (I just heard via text message, and can't google anything up, so I guess it's not public yet -- probably in the morning...)


Jesse - Dec 19, 2008 3:42:38 pm PST #7163 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But I do think there's a difference between a foundation that was started with money from Jewish people and a foundation whose main goal is supporting Jewish organizations/communities/whatever.


msbelle - Dec 19, 2008 3:47:54 pm PST #7164 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Ugh and my damn cat peed under the tree again. I have no idea what to do. I put a plastic bin under there to try and cover the pee area, but that didn't seem to work. At least the skirt is plastic. I think it will just come down the Sat after Christmas.


Hil R. - Dec 19, 2008 3:47:59 pm PST #7165 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

But I do think there's a difference between a foundation that was started with money from Jewish people and a foundation whose main goal is supporting Jewish organizations/communities/whatever.

Yeah, definitely. Then there are also those -- AJWS comes to mind -- that identify as Jewish, but the money goes to programs that help all different people. The articles in the Jewish press aren't all making a distinction between "Jewish groups" and "groups largely supported by Jews," and a lot of the mainstream press seems to be going to ridiculous lengths to avoid focusing on anything Jewish with a money scandal. (Which is understandable, but leading to some weirdly-phrased articles.)