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I just can't see the big deal with having Rick Warren give the invocation at the inaugural.
Substantively, it isn't. Symbolically, it's Mr. Inclusivity giving a prominent soapbox to someone who compare my family to incest and pedophilia. Which doesn't give me comfort that Mr. Inclusivity will take my side on issues of great importance to people like me and families like mine.
Symbolically, it's Mr. Inclusivity giving a prominent soapbox to someone who compare my family to incest and pedophilia.
You forgot bestiality!
It sickens me that this man is being given an implicit endorsement and a national platform. I know Obama's been falling over himself to say "No no, I still disagree with him on everything!" but...ugh. I just don't like it. There must be other conservative Christian preachers who could deliver an aisle-reaching invocation without comparing abortion rights to the Holocaust, you know?
To many people it legitimizes him in a more substantial way. It makes me sad, but I understand the concessions politicians think they have to make (even as I scream, but you already won!!). As a Christian it makes me doubly sad that so many who claim to share the same faith as me, are energized by discrimination and fear and hate. Which is not to say Warren does not do some really good stuff. Compared to some of the mega-church ministers he is vastly better in my eyes, but like many others, there are some issues that ARE a litmus test for me and he doesn't pass.
All of what they said.
But it also distresses me rather a lot that we always have to have religious bits of government functions.
Maybe he can balance it out by having PZ Meyers deliver the closing remarks. (What's the fancy-word opposite of invocation? Convocation? Exvocation?)
Outvocation?
Revocation?
Benediction? That's probably too churchy.
nope it is benediction.
t loves on the Buffistas
The Warren thing has my household in a pretty deep funk. I don't understand how Obama could have thought this would be a good thing, especially as he first takes office. It's not so much that Warren is against gay marriage (though that is a problem for me personally), he has compared gay marriage to incest, bestiality, and polygamy. Why not pop David Duke up there? What about all the racists in the country - he's their president, too! This is just a huge disappointment to me and makes me think there won't be much of that "change" he campaigned on.