Jayne: What're you gonna tell the others? Mal: About what? Jayne: About why I'm dead. Mal: Hadn't thought about it. Jayne: Make something up. Don't tell 'em what I did.

'Ariel'


Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sparky1 - Nov 11, 2008 5:36:22 am PST #589 of 10002
Librarian Warlord

I can deal with people I disagree with, when I believe that they have a thoughtful position that they really believe.

I used to believe this of myself, until I met John Yoo. He's quite thoughtful, and not a raging neocon. He's even got a great sense of humor. But I can't deal with him because of his positions.


sumi - Nov 11, 2008 5:41:31 am PST #590 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

That Whistlestop photo from Downingtown PA: that is right near where my father grew up.

And it's the town where my uncle worked for most of his adult life (for Lukens Steel.)


lisah - Nov 11, 2008 5:46:15 am PST #591 of 10002
Punishingly Intricate

I'm finding myself weirdly fascinated by the Obamas. It's like I have a crush on the whole damn family.

Me too. It's weird.


sarameg - Nov 11, 2008 5:53:44 am PST #592 of 10002

Three. Ayup.


Cashmere - Nov 11, 2008 6:05:40 am PST #593 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

I used to believe this of myself, until I met John Yoo. He's quite thoughtful, and not a raging neocon. He's even got a great sense of humor. But I can't deal with him because of his positions.

After seeing John Yoo's interviews in Taxi to the Darkside, I'd be hard pressed to not throttle him if I ever met him in person.


sumi - Nov 11, 2008 6:11:09 am PST #594 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

This was linked to over at Readerville - I thought some (history buffs) might be interested in it:

Recording from 1818 of a unit being bombarded.

Link to recording at the site and it's also available on itunes.

Edited to say: of course, by 1818, I mean 1918.


Jesse - Nov 11, 2008 6:18:58 am PST #595 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Add me to the family-crush list.

I used to believe this of myself, until I met John Yoo. He's quite thoughtful, and not a raging neocon. He's even got a great sense of humor. But I can't deal with him because of his positions.

Oh, I don't mean deal with personally. Mostly I mean respect. Not that I know who John Yoo is.


DavidS - Nov 11, 2008 6:21:10 am PST #596 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

From McSweeney's: An Electoral-College breakdown for my French in-laws that meets all their preconceptions.

I'm trying to decide if his description of Florida or Ohio is more apt, but they did call Laura, Tep and Cash to mind.


amych - Nov 11, 2008 6:23:37 am PST #597 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Not that I know who John Yoo is.

Torture Memo guy, unless I'm thinking of a different Yoo altogether.


Trudy Booth - Nov 11, 2008 6:41:06 am PST #598 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Aaaaand I'm tearing up again:

South Carolina proved Obama could make a stand in the South. I live in Charleston, S.C., and his win in the state's primary really made a difference to people - both black and white. Several days before the primary, my cab driver told me he was going to vote for Obama but he didn't believe a black man could win against a white man or woman. I called him after the election to see if he voted. With pride in his voice he said, "I did and I took my kid with me and the next day I told him he was right. He could be anything he wanted to be someday, even President."

There are plenty of things I won't agree with Obama on and I think a lot of people are in for some disappointment when they start seeing those things. But he won't be calling us anti-american for it. And he'll try and find the common ground.

I'm also hoping he can unite the party a bit. Rahm Emanuel's hate-on for Howard Dean distresses me. I'll be interested to see how/if Obama reaches out to Dean (who's 50 state strategy has worked twice now). If he can get them to play nice with each other it could do the Democrats a lot of good. The GOP is pretty splintered at the moment, this would be a very good time for the Democrats to put their differences aside.