On my seventh birthday, I wanted a toy fire truck, and I didn't get it, and you were real nice about it, and then the house next door burnt down, and then real firetrucks came, and for years I thought you set the fire for me. And if you did, you can tell me!

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nilly - Dec 10, 2008 5:22:23 am PST #5241 of 10002
Swouncing

Oh, and the second half of those 14 weeks can be traded with a paternity leave (as in, the mother gets 7 weeks, and upon request and feeling lotsa forms and stuff, she returns to work, and the father gets the following 7 weeks).


Sparky1 - Dec 10, 2008 5:23:27 am PST #5242 of 10002
Librarian Warlord

I'm not sure I understand.

The federal law here only says that a workplace can't discriminate against a woman taking a leave of absence to have a baby, and that she has to have a job to come back to. But there are rules about how long one can take off, and the employer doesn't have to pay her salary.

The US Supreme Court is, in fact, hearing arguments in a maternity leave case today or tomorrow (it's about whether the time a mother took off to have her child should/should not be counted when considering seniority and pensions back when it wasn't illegal to discriminate against women taking time off to have a baby).


Gudanov - Dec 10, 2008 5:25:02 am PST #5243 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

You need a comfy couch in your office, Gud. Please be safe.

I did finally make it home last night. The route I took was blocked off due to an accident so I had to find my way home via backroads. I got one wheel in a ditch after sliding on some ice, but not bad enough to get my little Honda stuck. It probably took about a half hour to get within a couple of miles of my house and then about an hour to navigate a way to actually get there.


Sparky1 - Dec 10, 2008 5:29:11 am PST #5244 of 10002
Librarian Warlord

Ugh, Gud. Glad you made it safe.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 10, 2008 5:30:40 am PST #5245 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

You need a comfy couch in your office, Gud.

Won't that be just as dangerous what with Gud trying to flip over the couch?


Theodosia - Dec 10, 2008 5:32:09 am PST #5246 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Congrats on the impending Sparkler or Sparklette!

Gud, glad you made it home OK!


Nilly - Dec 10, 2008 5:33:05 am PST #5247 of 10002
Swouncing

the employer doesn't have to pay her salary.

The employer doesn't pay any salary here, too. It's the social security that's covering the 2/3rds of the regular salary for those 14 weeks.

(Each citizen pays a certain amount each month, deducted from the salary through the employer, or if unemployed, directly by the citizen, a smaller sum - that's our "social security". then, in cases such as maternity leave, loss of work possibilities through accidents or old age and the like, it's the social security who covers stuff back for the citizen).

Gud, what Sparky said.


Ginger - Dec 10, 2008 5:36:16 am PST #5248 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

You live in a more civilized country than ours, Nilly.

Also, it's so good to see you.


Tom Scola - Dec 10, 2008 5:37:21 am PST #5249 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

My boss just dropped me in the middle of a kerfuffle at work. Man, I just hate it when it's a problem with the humans and not with the computers.


Gudanov - Dec 10, 2008 5:40:52 am PST #5250 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

Thanks for the well wishes, I'll be glad when some of the roads open up again. It's a real pain when the roads get all iced up.

Congratulations on the knocking up Sparky!