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Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Dec 08, 2008 11:43:39 am PST #4901 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I ended up on this page. [link] It starts out with debunking parts of the story -- a few details that don't add up, the number of students involved seems bigger than it should be, and so on. I keep reading.

I just skimmed from the top, and off the bat, he seems to be wondering why people think teaching Nazism would be a bad thing.


Beverly - Dec 08, 2008 11:43:53 am PST #4902 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

No sick for Dana!

How about the epic battle between were-dinos and vampire dinos? That would be an almost unparalleled opportunity for bad CGI.

I have this sudden urge to watch Underworld...


Burrell - Dec 08, 2008 12:11:46 pm PST #4903 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Fascinating, Hil. He seems to be deeply confused in many ways, but what strikes me most are two things. First I am a bit boggled that he finds a great deal of similarity between yoga and Nazism. But what really gets me is his whole argument that mental discipline doesn't lead to killing Jews. It's so completely wrongheaded that it's hard to actually get in there and point out what's wrong with it without giving yourself a headache.


Hil R. - Dec 08, 2008 12:14:51 pm PST #4904 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

But what really gets me is his whole argument that mental discipline doesn't lead to killing Jews. It's so completely wrongheaded that it's hard to actually get in there and point out what's wrong with it without giving yourself a headache.

Yeah. It's just so weird, and so completely missing the point.


Jesse - Dec 08, 2008 12:18:01 pm PST #4905 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I had to stop reading that page really pretty quickly, because I was so creeped out.


Hil R. - Dec 08, 2008 12:20:30 pm PST #4906 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I also just found an archive of the school newspaper from that time period. Seems like that teacher was pretty controversial in a bunch of ways. The next year, he claimed to be a member of SDS planted as an informer in the National Guard, and then claimed it was to teach about China in the early 1900s. He was also trying to get something called "Idea Forum" approved as a class. (I suspect many high schools in 1967 had something like Idea Forum floating around. My high school used to have some sort of "hippyish" history curriculum, but by the time I got there, the only thing really remaining was class names -- Modern World (Middle Ages, Renaissance, Reformation); Revolutionary World (US History up to about 1880); Industrial World (US History from 1880 to as far as the teacher was able to get); and Contemporary World (senior year choice of US Government, Modern Europe, Psychology, and one other thing I can't remember right now.)


Burrell - Dec 08, 2008 12:23:18 pm PST #4907 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Now I have to disengage my brain from him so I can get back to grading. Phew!

I so need chocolate right now. Why have the chocolate fairies forsaken me?


Hil R. - Dec 08, 2008 12:33:49 pm PST #4908 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Mmm, chocolate. I don't have any, either.

Interesting. Neil Howe was in that high school at the time.

The Idea Forum thing was going on the same week as The Third Wave -- he was trying to get the school to adopt a new class, where for three hours a week students and teachers could meet and study whatever they wanted, outside the "stereotypical" roles of teacher in charge and students as listeners. It would also "bridge the generation gap."


Connie Neil - Dec 08, 2008 12:34:20 pm PST #4909 of 10002
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Revolutionary World (US History up to about 1880);

Considering how much upheaval was going on in the world at that time, that's a good name.


Sheryl - Dec 08, 2008 12:42:55 pm PST #4910 of 10002
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

I have separate vacation and sick leave. Both roll over from year to year(though there is a cap on the amount of vacation you can roll over - not that I'm anywhere near that amount). G has the PTO thing now.