I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time.

Ethan Rayne ,'Potential'


Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - Dec 08, 2008 8:32:35 am PST #4863 of 10002
Because books.

But that's not actually true. The money laid out in an advance is carefully P&L'd to death based on how many copies they think they can sell. Which is why celebs get more money, because most of the time more people will buy those books than a first novel by an unknown entity. And it's also why first novels by an unknown entity need a lot of hand-selling and dedicated PR by the publisher to hit a list or even make decent money for anyone, author or publisher.

There's not a finite amount of money to be paid out. Well, there is, but it's based on what they're going to get back, so. It's gambling, essentially.


DavidS - Dec 08, 2008 8:32:57 am PST #4864 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I have heard also that the political books often get bought up in bulk by various politically driven think tanks to drive them up the best seller lists. That it's a form of sanctioned, legal patronage.


Barb - Dec 08, 2008 8:35:14 am PST #4865 of 10002
“Not dead yet!”

Which is why celebs get more money, because most of the time more people will buy those books than a first novel by an unknown entity. And it's also why first novels by an unknown entity need a lot of hand-selling and dedicated PR by the publisher to hit a list or even make decent money for anyone, author or publisher.

Yep. My rational brain knows this and even understands the financial theory.

The toddler brain, however, wants to stomp its feet and throw a tantrum.


Jesse - Dec 08, 2008 8:37:11 am PST #4866 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I am pretty sure we lose them if we don't use them up

Oh crap -- I wonder if we have that.


Theodosia - Dec 08, 2008 8:41:06 am PST #4867 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

There's also the fact that B&N and Borders et al, actually SELL placement up in the front on the tables where you come in and see the books in the first place. Since, casual readers are more likely to pause and browse, so the books that got promotion that way sell more....

It's not payola, but it's sure market-warping.


megan walker - Dec 08, 2008 8:45:52 am PST #4868 of 10002
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Oh crap -- I wonder if we have that.

I think that's usually true for personal days.

My company actually also has that policy for the measly amount of vacation they give us. Luckily, California law says otherwise.


Jesse - Dec 08, 2008 8:47:49 am PST #4869 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Well, there's a chance they are based on our fiscal year, which doesn't end until March. I think I've only used one personal day this year (big mistake -- should have used them first!), but can't be sure, since there's no way to get an updated leave balance around here. Whatever, it's not like I don't have weeks of unused vacation days sitting around, but it's the principle of the thing!


megan walker - Dec 08, 2008 8:52:33 am PST #4870 of 10002
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Bizarrely, no one officially keeps track of our days off. I do, but I'm sure I could totally take extra days and no one would be the wiser.


brenda m - Dec 08, 2008 8:55:03 am PST #4871 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I think that's usually true for personal days.

Mine are like that, but this is the first time in my career that they didn't roll over so I don't know I'd say it's usual. Definitely something to check in to and be sure about though.


sarameg - Dec 08, 2008 8:55:23 am PST #4872 of 10002

My sick and vacation are in separate pots, with rollover, and sick leave accumulates indefinitely. Well, maybe not indefinitely, but it is a pretty large amount. Vacation at a cerain point will stop rolling over, but it is a matter of several months worth.