Can't drink, smoke, diddle my willy. Doesn't leave much to do other than watch you blokes stumble around playing Agatha Christie.

Spike ,'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nora Deirdre - Dec 06, 2008 10:32:06 am PST #4639 of 10002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

We just got a tree! Taz is quite taken aback.

This is the first tree we've had in this house!


§ ita § - Dec 06, 2008 10:41:45 am PST #4640 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What's the name of the device where an episode is filmed in limited locations (maybe just a room or two) and also maybe with limited cast?


DavidS - Dec 06, 2008 10:44:09 am PST #4641 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

This is the first tree we've had in this house!

Yay! We're getting ours this afternoon.


brenda m - Dec 06, 2008 10:52:35 am PST #4642 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Well this is new. I was chopping onions and it didn't bother my eyes at all but instead has sent me into sneezing fits.


dcp - Dec 06, 2008 11:01:55 am PST #4643 of 10002
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

ita, I think that's a Bottle episode.


Typo Boy - Dec 06, 2008 11:02:07 am PST #4644 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

What exactly was a "gentleman" in 17th century England? Not a noble, right? But you could be prosperous, and still "no gentleman", true?


Shir - Dec 06, 2008 11:03:34 am PST #4645 of 10002
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

True, Typo Boy.


msbelle - Dec 06, 2008 11:20:37 am PST #4646 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

we have a tree. mac was enticed by the larger girth but less full trees. The Douglas Firs were clearly better looking, tight and dense, but thanks fully - what he chose was $10 cheaper. Now I have to do the dance of getting it in the stand and up - always tricky with a 7 footer by myself.

In fact just getting it home is probably something that should be filmed and shown for comic relief somewhere. me in a hot pink puffy coat, swerving on the sidewalk with the tree in a granny cart. mac walking beside carrying a large plastic tub.


§ ita § - Dec 06, 2008 11:21:06 am PST #4647 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thanks, dcp. That's exactly what I was thinking of.


Typo Boy - Dec 06, 2008 11:35:38 am PST #4648 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Can anyone guide to further readings. I'd like to be able identify social and economic class in the 17th century, how they intersected, and the grey areas. That is I'd like to figure out what would put someone in a position where there could be doubts and disputes over whether they were a gentleman. Alternatively what would make someone a gentleman, but barely so that other gentleman would think of him as "one of us, but not quite". Or what would make someone "not a gentleman, but almost". In other words what could put people close to the line, on either side, and what would put people in a gray area where you really were not sure which side of the line they were on.