Jayne: We was just about to spring into action, Captain. Complicated escape and rescue op. Wash: I was going to watch. It was very exciting.

'Shindig'


Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


erikaj - Dec 01, 2008 9:43:05 am PST #3830 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

my luck would be I'd be the one person who really did that by accident. "Either this kid sat on a lightbulb or his colon had a bright idea," --Perry Cox.


Allyson - Dec 01, 2008 9:55:33 am PST #3831 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I was stuck on arrow of time (I often am, it's a very pointy arrow) so I posed some of the questions/assertions here to a couple of friends who live and breath these things.

My cosmologist friend says, "In many ways, time is like space; Einstein and others helped figure that out. In particular, in many ways things shouldn't look much different if we ran them backwards in time, just as they don't look all that different if we invert them in space (as in a mirror). And yet they do, as there is an arrow of time but no arrow of space. Some processes are irreversible, entropy increases,and so on. That's the kind of thing David (Albert)and I are trying hard to understand.

"But -- "there shouldn't be any reason why we couldn't move around in time like we can move around in space" is just wrong. There's a perfectly good reason, namely that there is only one direction of time, while there is more than one direction of space."


Trudy Booth - Dec 01, 2008 10:01:10 am PST #3832 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Scottish vicars would have it much easier when they end up with potatoes in their butts. So would Drew.


Jesse - Dec 01, 2008 10:02:14 am PST #3833 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

And the vicar had to have it removed SURGICALLY. That's a hell of a fall.


lisah - Dec 01, 2008 10:11:35 am PST #3834 of 10002
Punishingly Intricate

"But -- "there shouldn't be any reason why we couldn't move around in time like we can move around in space" is just wrong. There's a perfectly good reason, namely that there is only one direction of time, while there is more than one direction of space."

This was what I was thinking but didn't say anything because I thought it maybe sounded simplistic or dumb or something! Also I couldn't think of a good analogy.


Shir - Dec 01, 2008 10:12:56 am PST #3835 of 10002
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

I don't care what y'all are saying: I still want a time machine.


DavidS - Dec 01, 2008 10:17:50 am PST #3836 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

We might need to change our sub-head in Natter from:

"Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics?"

to

"Wanna talk about Vicar potatoes, puppycam or physics?"

In fact, I propose as a matter of general usage, to be promulgated throughout the culture the phrase "Vicar Potatoes" to be applied to any outlandish assertion completely lacking in credibility.

"Awww, that's just a bunch of Vicar potatoes!"


Allyson - Dec 01, 2008 10:18:20 am PST #3837 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think the arrow-of-time problem is why my head explodes when i watch Terminator movies.


tommyrot - Dec 01, 2008 10:19:07 am PST #3838 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I think it's cool that positrons (the anti-matter equivalent of electrons) go backwards in time. Or at least that's one interpretation.


tommyrot - Dec 01, 2008 10:20:03 am PST #3839 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

"Awww, that's just a bunch of Vicar potatoes!"

See, to me this sounds like a food discussion.

"How would you like your vicar potatoes?"