You're wrong about River. River's not on the ship. They didn't want her here, but she couldn't make herself leave. So she melted... Melted away. They didn't know she could do that, but she did.

River ,'Objects In Space'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


flea - Dec 01, 2008 5:52:59 am PST #3784 of 10002
information libertarian

ita, I wonder if you are conflating prodigal and profligate?

I am in such a foul mood. mr. flea just got back from 8 days in Belgium and France, and next Tuesday leaves for 4 nights again. He told me it was the 10-12th, so I reasonably assumed 2 nights. 4 nights is double that (it is actually 9th-13th). Grrr.


Dana - Dec 01, 2008 6:01:26 am PST #3785 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I should shower and start doing productive things, but I have a serious case of the don't wannas.


§ ita § - Dec 01, 2008 6:03:27 am PST #3786 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wonder if you are conflating prodigal and profligate?

I don't understand. They share a meaning. I didn't conflate them, English did.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 01, 2008 6:04:11 am PST #3787 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

2. Diamonds Are Not The Hardest Substance on Earth

Not no more, anyway....

Yeah, but the only thing that's harder is also pure carbon that's been heated and put under extreme pressure. I say it's still just a diamond, only tougher and fuglier than usual. It's the dock-side hooker diamond.


flea - Dec 01, 2008 6:08:51 am PST #3788 of 10002
information libertarian

Well, dictionary English, yes, but in US usage that I see, prodigal is almost always used in the "prodigal son" sense, and the profligate nature of the prodigal is elided, with emphasis on "he was unspecifically bad, and then he came back and was accepted".


§ ita § - Dec 01, 2008 6:21:10 am PST #3789 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

in US usage that I see, prodigal is almost always used in the "prodigal son" sense, [...] "he was unspecifically bad, and then he came back and was accepted".

Yeah--that's kind of what I meant by my question:

Am I right in thinking "prodigal" is often used to mean long-lost-but-now-returning and not spendthrift?

I.E. it's not used to mean profligate, although that's what it's supposed to mean. And the "prodigal son" sense, he is profligate. It's just not what people seem to be taking away from the parable.


Connie Neil - Dec 01, 2008 6:22:29 am PST #3790 of 10002
brillig

I'm now wondering at the connection between "prodigal" and "prodigious."


flea - Dec 01, 2008 6:23:21 am PST #3791 of 10002
information libertarian

Right. I guess we agree. Sorry I misunderstood.


Kat - Dec 01, 2008 6:27:35 am PST #3792 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

But the prodigal son returned, sheepishly, because he spent all he had.

eta sorry for the xpost.


§ ita § - Dec 01, 2008 6:45:34 am PST #3793 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The whole prodigal thing had me confused for a while.

There's a strange man on my balcony. They're painting the exterior of the building, but we're given no advance warning as to when they'll climb up the outside wall onto our balcony or just a moment before they'll paint the floor outside your apartment so you're hemmed in until it dries.

A note would have been nice.