Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sumi - Nov 07, 2008 9:31:55 am PST #34 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

So the press conference is running 10 to 15 minutes late.


Stephanie - Nov 07, 2008 9:34:59 am PST #35 of 10002
Trust my rage

I can't believe that Obama won, but as it is sinkng in, I find myself wanting so badly for him to be audacious! To actually fix! Something. I am totally ready to pay more taxes if it means everyone gets healthcare or something.


msbelle - Nov 07, 2008 9:35:46 am PST #36 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Except the conservatives disagree.

I know, which I find fascinating/terrifying. Conservatives are highly organized though. They have already had cross-issue strategy meetings NOT involving politicians, these are issue mavens who are not so much in the public eye and they are building coalitions that had fallen apart when they were already "winning".


Connie Neil - Nov 07, 2008 9:42:37 am PST #37 of 10002
brillig

I take the occasional turn through Redstate.com because I like to know what the opposition is talking about between themselves. They believe that they lost because McCain wasn't tough enough on socially conservative issues like abortion and gay marriage and that their girl Sarah is the hope of the future. Newly victorious progressives can snicker and dismiss them, but that popular vote was too close for my comfort, and we dismiss those millions to our peril.

God, I wish we could get a decent gague of the opinion of the people who didn't/couldn't vote.


msbelle - Nov 07, 2008 9:44:15 am PST #38 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I'm more than a little confused about the long lines, but total turnout numbers NOT being that much higher.


Jessica - Nov 07, 2008 9:48:06 am PST #39 of 10002
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I'm more than a little confused about the long lines, but total turnout numbers NOT being that much higher.

My impression of Brooklyn, at least, is that lines were really long in the morning because everyone was anticipating long lines and voted early. People who went after work said they didn't have to wait at all.


flea - Nov 07, 2008 9:49:04 am PST #40 of 10002
information libertarian

In GA, early voting had long lines; election day voting, not.


amych - Nov 07, 2008 9:50:55 am PST #41 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

The shots of Biden and Obama alone together look so casual and friendly--they genuinely like each other.

I had the same thought with the shot of them sharing a pretzel from the big Philadelphia day -- they have the body language of real friends, not "we have to do appearances together" friends.

I am totally ready to pay more taxes if it means everyone gets healthcare or something.

The quote I had running around in my head through the whole socialism phase of the election was, I think, Brandeis: "I love paying taxes. I use them to buy civilization."


msbelle - Nov 07, 2008 9:51:46 am PST #42 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

oh, and I just re-read and totlat number of voters was up between 4-6 million (so yea, that could affect lines). It is % that did not go up much. So get OUT the vote is probably much more important.


Ginger - Nov 07, 2008 9:56:04 am PST #43 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Oliver Wendell Holmes: "Taxes are what we pay for civilized society."