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Toddson - Nov 19, 2008 8:02:55 am PST #2279 of 10002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

oh my ... people get pets because they're cute and then - horrors! - realize they actually need care beyond petting them and maybe playing with them when the mood strikes. I know lots of dalmatians were turned in to shelters not too long after the movie. Not to mention the chicks and bunnies that are Easter presents whose charm fades when they grow up. Michelle Obama, in the 60 Minutes interview said that they're not getting the puppy until after they're settled in the White House, so it'll be moved into a settled situation, rather than have to go through the move (the girls know this, so they expect to wait).

In other news, has anyone seen this?


beekaytee - Nov 19, 2008 8:04:17 am PST #2280 of 10002
Compassionately intolerant

Only seriously dominant/alpha Newf

Anomalies do happen. You definitely made the right decision.

I've got some dog park friends whose puppy ended up with a rage disorder that they could not control. They did EVERYthing imaginable to cope but ultimately had to get the breeder to take him back. They were heart-broken.

Weirdly enough, they fostered another dog of the same breed (Bully) at the same time and ended up keeping her with good results. Just like people, expected traits aren't always predictable.

I do blame bad breeding for a lot of the struggles we've seen over the last 20 years and strongly advocate for adopting from a reputable agency that does temperament testing.


amych - Nov 19, 2008 8:06:35 am PST #2281 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

They think that they are Akitas.

A friend of mine who did both Shiba and Akita rescue for many years used to say that it wasn't so much that they think they're Akitas -- it's that they actually are, just super-concentrated, like the detergent that does just as many loads with a smaller bottle.


Hil R. - Nov 19, 2008 8:07:55 am PST #2282 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Oh, if any animal-lovers were planning to watch last night's L&O:SVU -- don't. Seriously. It was the first time I've ever had to turn off an SVU episode because I just couldn't handle watching it.


Barb - Nov 19, 2008 8:08:02 am PST #2283 of 10002
“Not dead yet!”

I've never heard of a Newf doing that.

It was the most bizarre thing-- we'd had the puppy since it was eight weeks old, it was from a reputable breeder, it was only left alone for very limited time periods (an hour or so), we did training, the whole nine yards. Dog just never took to Lewis, for whatever reason (and Lewis still has the scars to prove it). Nearly thirteen years later and I still feel as if I failed somehow, but I know that ultimately, giving the dog back to the breeder was the best thing.


beekaytee - Nov 19, 2008 8:08:54 am PST #2284 of 10002
Compassionately intolerant

Sparky, your DH has heard me say it before, the more relaxed we can be about a dog 'talking' the less they will talk. And the more relaxed about barking we become, the less we care about the barking that doesn't stop!

I used to get very uptight about Bartleby 'bothering' other people. Now, I focus on making sure he is well behaved and I let people have their reactions without adding to their agita with my own.

The bark stops here, so to speak.


sumi - Nov 19, 2008 8:10:42 am PST #2285 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Hahahaha!


Barb - Nov 19, 2008 8:16:41 am PST #2286 of 10002
“Not dead yet!”

Look, buy two and save! [link]


Scrappy - Nov 19, 2008 8:18:00 am PST #2287 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Our two bark a bit when a dog walks by the house, but other than that are pretty chill. Oh, and Layla barks when the doorbell rings. Or when a doorbell rings on television, which is hilarious. No barking on walks, thank goodness. I never grew up with dogs and don't like a lot of barking. We draw pretty strict rules about the bark thing, but a huge part of it is how talky a dog naturally is so we are lucky.


Gudanov - Nov 19, 2008 8:20:28 am PST #2288 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

We have Fenris inside at night and usually bring him inside if he really gets going with the barking. Of course if there is a squirrel around, it can be pretty hard to get him to come inside. He's all, you don't understand there is a SQUIRREL IN. OUR. TREE.