Come on out, River. The nice man wants to kidnap you.

Simon ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Ginger - Nov 07, 2008 9:11:36 am PST #22 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I am not giving up the schadenfreude. It's about the only thing that's kept me going the last eight years.


sumi - Nov 07, 2008 9:13:56 am PST #23 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

We has so much to talk about that we didn't even notice how close to the end that thread was.


Sean K - Nov 07, 2008 9:14:09 am PST #24 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

From the previous thread:

The point where I started rooting for Obama instead of just the Democratic party was his speech in response to the Rev. Wright imbroglio. That was masterful and really gave me a better sense of who he was, and how he would govern.

I think the thing that sold me lock, stock and barrel on Obama was his "half time locker room" speech he gave to his staff in Chicago the day after accepting the nomination. The theme of the speech was "we've made it this far by promising things to people in tough situations. Guess what? Now we have to win."

It was incredible.


tommyrot - Nov 07, 2008 9:15:26 am PST #25 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I do, however, think that they will hurt rather than help themselves if the leadership of the party tries to cater to the Palin base. I think that base is a shrinking pot in America.

Yeah. They're losing the college educated voters bigtime. Plus demographics are strongly favorable for the Dems in the future. But yeah, we can't take it for granted.

Still, let's assume Obama runs for reelection in 2012. What will the Republican attack critters be saying? "A vote for Obama is a vote for socialism! Yeah, he didn't carry out his socialismizing of America in his first term, but that's because he's a stealth socialist! Even more of a stealth socialist than we were saying in '08! See, the fact that we don't have socialism yet just proves we were right!"


msbelle - Nov 07, 2008 9:17:16 am PST #26 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

tommy - you assume that they need to say anything resembling the truth. That has never been the strategy, and the stratgey has been effective a great deal of the time.


Barb - Nov 07, 2008 9:19:03 am PST #27 of 10002
“Not dead yet!”

Cash, I love the pictures of Joe with the Obama girls-- he always seems so completely genuine with kids. And I loved the pic of Jill and Michell embracing.

By the by, can we adopt Mama Biden?


tommyrot - Nov 07, 2008 9:21:14 am PST #28 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

tommy - you assume that they need to say anything resembling the truth.

Yeah, I had to do that to try to make my joke funny.


Steph L. - Nov 07, 2008 9:22:57 am PST #29 of 10002
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I think it sounds nuts but it still hasn't quite sunk in for me. Pictures like this choke me up and make me realize that BARACK OBAMA WON.

Right there with you. I can't quite let go of the fact that I should still be worrying and trying to convince my co-workers and weird family to vote for Obama.


tommyrot - Nov 07, 2008 9:23:21 am PST #30 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Sullivan: Quote For The Day

"Does any reasonable person not believe that gays and lesbians deserve respect and equality? Not today’s Republican Party. Expert translators from Arabic have been dismissed for being gay. And applicants for the post of certified public accountants in the Iraq Green Zone have been asked about their view of Roe v. Wade," - Jeffrey Hart, one of the founders of the conservative movement.

Hart was removed from the masthead of National Review a little while ago.


Cashmere - Nov 07, 2008 9:24:03 am PST #31 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Cash, I love the pictures of Joe with the Obama girls-- he always seems so completely genuine with kids. And I loved the pic of Jill and Michell embracing.

It had to have been an intense evening and even if they were the front runners, there was still a slim possibility of losing. And yet EVERYONE seems so warm and comfortable with each other. The shots of Biden and Obama alone together look so casual and friendly--they genuinely like each other.

The whole photo set just drives the feeling home for me that these people can work together and make things happen.